I know what my definition is. You probably know what your definition is. They 
probably even overlap to a great extent, but I'm sure they don't coincide. 

So when someone proposes legislating against it I'd like to know who gets to 
choose the definition. As an adult I don't want other people deciding what I 
can and can't read and hear and say and write and depict unless I get to choose 
them. I don't really think that's out of touch.

B

On 6 Apr 2013, at 15:55, Bob Sullivan <[email protected]> wrote:

> Bob W,  If you have to ask, you're already out of touch.  Regards,  Bob S.
> 
> On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 8:40 AM, Bob W <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On 6 Apr 2013, at 06:16, Bipin Gupta <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi John, Stan, Bob and many other good PDMLers, I agree with you folks
>>> and that we should not publish, depict, post or spread hatred on a
>>> Public Network.
>> 
>> Who gets to define hatred?
>> 
>> 
>> B
>> 
>>> I have lived in many parts of the world, including my native Bangalore 
>>> India.
>>> In some places I find the Police very haughty, high handed, loud and
>>> with an intimidating body language / swagger. They hand cuff people
>>> for petty misdemeanors, even when they are not violent.
>>> 
>>> Here in India or in Muscat, Oman and in Dubai, the UAE, I have never
>>> seen Police handcuffing people except in homicide cases or violent
>>> crimes. In fact I was surprised to find the Royal Oman Police very
>>> kind, helpful and humane.
>>> 
>>>                                         I remember being involved in
>>> a pile up - high way speed is 120 KMPH. The Police Officer greeted us
>>> with an "As Saalam Alaikum", shook hands and requested us for our
>>> Driving Licence and the Vehicle Registration Card. He then directed us
>>> to the nearest Police Station, where we were issued with the Police
>>> Report, which helps us file the Insurance Claim.
>>> 
>>> I believe this lady had some tiff with the Police earlier during
>>> Protests for College Fee Hike or something. She may have had a grouse
>>> and vented it by photographing violent street art and then publishing
>>> it.
>>> 
>>> I have seen such street art on a paid photo walk in San Francisco.
>>> Worst still we found folks absolutely naked on the streets of San
>>> Francisco, Castro District I think,  with the dingle-dangle and all in
>>> full public view. And there were children, women, tourists in the
>>> area.
>>> I must say I am confused by the moral & social values in the Americas.
>>> 
>>> Once in Chicago, I saw a lovely little girl in a wheel chair. I had a
>>> little brother like her with mental retardation, but he drowned
>>> swimming in the river Ganga. So I bent down to chat with her out of
>>> over whelming love and affection and blessed her by touching her hair
>>> and fore-head. My host later told me it is not a done thing here. I
>>> was sad to hear this.
>>> Regards.
>>> Bipin - from that far away enchanting land.
>>> 
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