On Apr 9, 2013, at 9:28 AM, Aahz Maruch <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 09, 2013, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>> 
>> But I agree that many Americans are undereducated.  As I said when
>> this thread first shifted, American schools have failed their
>> students.  They became complacent, and many of them are packed with
>> bad teachers protected by powerful unions with political connections.
>> Things are changing, but improvement takes time. Grace's public school
>> is a good one, in part because it's subject to heavy competition from
>> excellent Catholic and private schools, but also because it's in a
>> good neighborhood where the residents will accept nothing less.  Most
>> American children are not so fortunate.
> 
> Where "good neighborhood" means parents with some combination of money
> and time.  You're right, most American children are not so fortunate.

That's why voucher funded charter schools are needed in those other areas. They 
can provide the competition for the public schools. Community involvement is 
another thing, but having an alternative to  the public schools is a start.
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