On Sun, May 12, 2013, Larry Colen wrote:
> 
> It seems that it could be a lot of fun to have an ultrawide 
> (12mm or so on aps) closeup lens.  My sigma 20 would be close to that 
> on full frame, but doesn't have quite the DOF to get close enough.
> 
> What options are available for doing such things, other than stopping
> my fisheye down to f20 and just taking what I get?

According to dpreview.com, the Sigma 8-16 goes to 9.5", the Pentax 10-17
goes to 6", and the Samsung 10-17 goes to 6" (latter two look like the
same lens).  By comparison your Samyang 8mm is rated for 12".
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