You are technically correct, Stan. But I was out there for approx. 75
minutes to get my 6 minutes of integrated exposure time. After doing
the precise calibration, a lot of my first shots were complete misses
(Andromeda not even in the frame). And then when I finally located it
and started taking images, I was trying to find the maximum amount of
time I could expose and not get star trails. For me, in this part of
the sky, with this lens, on this night, that max was about 45 seconds.
I then rejected over half of the images that I shot, only stacking the
very best (which ended up to be 11).

So, if one could go out, locate the object immediately, and get 100%
"keepers", the sky would only be rolling for 10-20 minutes or so. But
the reality is that you need to shoot more than you keep, and you need
to get the object in the frame first. I'm looking into better ways to
do that, but mostly they involve mounting a Telrad (or other laser
projection "finder") beside the camera and looking in the exact same
place. Then that plate, with camera and Telrad mounted, would have to
be put on the ballhead and oriented around.

On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 8:46 PM, Stan Halpin
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Huh. I had imagined that you would locate the target or target region, set 
> the camera, fire a series of shots, and then stack away. From your comments 
> it seems that you need to re-target the target for each shot. I know the 
> stars are "moving" relative to us, but I hadn't thought they would move that 
> significantly in 6-8 minutes . . .
>
> stan
>
> On Oct 15, 2013, at 9:24 PM, Darren Addy wrote:
>
>> Thanks to all who have looked (and/or commented). The image is a crop
>> of what I got from doing an "overlap" stack in DSS. It is difficult to
>> frame each sub-exposure exactly the same (particularly when simply
>> using a ballhead), but with DSS that doesn't matter because it will
>> stack only the common parts of each image. From that result I cropped
>> in even closer resulting in the "centered" composition that Stan
>> didn't care for. I could have left more stars on the right and bottom,
>> but I guess my thinking was more like what Paul expressed earlier.
>> Also, the nature of astrophotography, particular with the lens near
>> wide open, is that the edges will drop in quality due to coma, CA,
>> etc. I didn't really have M31 centered well in any of the shots. It
>> was mostly left-of-center or lower left. So again, lots of room for
>> improvement with future images - even of the same subject. It is a
>> learning experience and I have a LOT left to learn.
>>
>> I don't see the banner either, but I'm also a paid account (if that
>> makes a difference). Rather annoying to hear about, though. : \
>>
>> By the way, I had a couple of astro imagers suggest a free PhotoShop
>> plugin called HLVG (HastaLaVistaGreen) which I think I will
>> find/download and try on this image. I thought I got the green out,
>> but apparently not enough.
>>
>> To Larry's earlier question... not sure about stacking software for
>> the Mac. I believe Steve Sharpe mentioned one up-thread.
>> DeepSkyStacker and Registax are the two biggies (both free, I believe)
>> on Windows. If anyone is interested, I can share a good link that
>> helped me with the histogram/curve part of DSS.
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 8:07 PM, Larry Colen <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 08:38:04PM -0400, Paul Stenquist wrote:
>>>> As I said, a fabulous shot. But what's with Flickr putting a banner in the 
>>>> corner of your frame, covering part of the image -- "Try our New Photo 
>>>> Experience." And people complain about ads on photo.net?? Bizarre.
>>>
>>> I don't see that baner.  But then, I have a paid account.
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