I agree with that key part statement, Paul. Alas, when I had a printer, there just wasn't time; and what time I had I spent replacing inks and cleaning print heads and trying to get the damned thing working again.
So I found a printer that starts with the Adobe 98 color space, and asks that I include the profile, and in a week I get back beautiful prints that are closer than I could ever get to what I see on my monitor. YMMV, as usual. Cheers, Rick On Nov 8, 2013, at 20:27 , Paul Stenquist wrote: > More important, on a personal level, is printings role as a key part of the > process. I've been printing my own work for more than 50 years. I find it > very fulfilling: It's the culmination, the conclusion, the final step in > creating the image. > > Paul via phone > >> On Nov 8, 2013, at 8:19 PM, "Bob W" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> That is so, and that is what soft-proofing is for, but it depends on your >> eye. My eyes are colour-blind, so I do my best not to rely on them. Luckily >> I live in London, where there are labs who can match profiles accurately (as >> far as I can tell). >> >> B >> >> >>> From: PDML [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul Stenquist >>> >>> That's theoretically possible, but very few labs are capable >>> of accurate profile matching. And doing it yourself allows >>> for more fine tuning. Reflective art is never an exact match >>> of an electronic display image. >>> >>> Paul via phone >>> >>>> On Nov 8, 2013, at 7:56 PM, Bob W <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Well, the theory is that a colour-managed workflow on both >>> sides gives you that control. >>>> >>>> B >>>> >>>>> On 9 Nov 2013, at 00:30, <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Regardless of the ink cost (I get my Epson ink at a >>> discount from Atlex.com) I prefer printing my own due to the >>> control I have. I'd never use any of the Walmarts/Costcos for >>> my printing source and there just aren't any really good >>> local shops that I'm aware of. >>>>> >>>>> Kenneth Waller >>>>> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob W" <[email protected]> >>>>> Subject: Re: Printer Recommendation >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> I got rid of my printers because I never used them and >>> space is at a premium in a small house like mine. If I need >>> to print text I do it at work. If I wanted to print photos >>> regularly I'd investigate the long-term costs of having to >>> buy ink versus printing at a lab. >>>>>> >>>>>> B >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 8 Nov 2013, at 01:19, Bruce <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've found that the ink for all printers is pretty cheap >>> as long as you don't print anything. I didn't see any >>> mention of actually printing, so you could be pretty safe >>> recommending just about anything. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Bruce >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Sent from Sony Tablet S >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Steve Cottrell <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> Had a request from the boy. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Verbatim: >>>>>>>> --------------------- >>>>>>>> Your task for the evening (should you choose to accept >>> it (which >>>>>>>> you should(upon death if you dont))): >>>>>>>> need a printer that is semi-good, cheap and reliable and >>>>>>>> affordable ink. >>>>>>>> Preferably comes with scanner. You have 24 hours to comply. >>>>>>>> ---------------------- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hmm a printer that is 'semi-good' whatever that means. Cheap - >>>>>>>> well plenty of cheap printers about, we all know they make the >>>>>>>> money on the inks. Reliable?? Most printers do a fair job. >>>>>>>> Affordable ink? Well, not the manufacturers ink then. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I use an Epson P50 with Hornsea inks >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <http://www.hornseaink.com/> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> and touch wood, not had a problem with these inks since started >>>>>>>> using them about a year ago. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Strange, I paid £130 for the P50, now they are retailing for >>>>>>>> closer to £200 ! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Anyway, anyone ? Recommendations based on above please :-) >>>> >>>> -- >>>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link >>> directly above and follow the directions. >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> [email protected] >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly >>> above and follow the directions. >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> [email protected] >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

