On Nov 25, 2013, at 7:30 PM, Larry Colen <[email protected]> wrote: > On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 07:04:09PM -0500, Bruce Walker wrote: >> Good gawd no, Larry. You only do that for sheer comedy. >> >> Here's what happens when you pose men like women: >> http://www.mymodernmet.com/profiles/blogs/alicia-mariah-elfving-ducati-dealership >> >> Try to view that with a straight face. I dare you! ;-) > > I think that that page goes a long way to pointing out some of the > ridiculousness that is common in photographing women. > I suppose that I should have said "equivalent" rather than the > "the same" pose. > >> >> More seriously: watch how the pros pose men vs women. They even have > > And there are differences between the way they will post people of the > same sex or gender with different builds. I'm a big fan of both > Weston's and Cunningham's nudes, so I did a google image search on > "cunningham nude", there are a lot of her pictures that would work > equally well with men in similar poses. > > >> gender names for the poses. There are enormous differences and you >> don't want to feminize men (unless you want a punch in the nose) or in >> general, masculinize women (ubless they ask you to or it's for >> effect). > > For example, here are Candice's photos of me: > http://www.flickr.com/search/?w=75558245@N00&q=larry
Not really nudes. Just shapes. > > And some of my photos of a friend: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157625920855489/ Ditto. > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157629250099556/ These are feminine in nature, and IMO wouldn't work well with a male body, unless, of course, effeminate was the objective. (And that's a credible goal, but it's not the way men usually want to be seen.) > The second set mostly involves poses that I simply could not get > into, even at my most flexible, and even so may not work as well > with the male form, even beyond flexibility, but I think that most > of the poses of me would work nearly as well with women as with > a guy, and likewise I think that most of the poses in the first > set of my friend are fairly gender neutral. > > This, by the way, from the second set: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/6845930276/in/set-72157629250099556 > > Is one of my favorite of all my photos Very nice, but it would be strange with a male model. > >> >> >> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 6:56 PM, Larry Colen <[email protected]> wrote: >>> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 06:21:50PM -0500, Bruce Walker wrote: >>>> >>>> My own preferences are to shoot women. I understand much better what >>>> makes interesting-to-me shots of a woman (clothed or un) whereas I >>>> have very little clue what would make an interesting-to-me male shot. >>>> I honestly just haven't given it much thought. I will one day, but up >>>> to now: no interest. So sue me. >>> >>> I will argue that the principles of light and composition for >>> a male body are the same as for a female, and as long as sexuality >>> is not of concern, then shooting a man is the same as shooting a >>> woman. >>> >>> I would even propose that you talk to one of your models about doing >>> a photo session of her and her boyfriend. Pose and photograph her, >>> then photograph him in the same pose. >>> >>> -- >>> Larry Colen [email protected] http://red4est.com/lrc >>> >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> [email protected] >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >>> follow the directions. >> >> >> >> -- >> -bmw >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> [email protected] >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > -- > Larry Colen [email protected] http://red4est.com/lrc > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
