If people wanted more male nude photos then they would happen. We may have biased attitudes but for matters of taste like photography , unlike legal rights, this has to change slowly. A picture of a naked person will elicit a sexual response, positive or negative, from most people. I don't believe at all that sexuality goes away just because it's art, statue of David included.
Steve Desjardins On Nov 26, 2013, at 2:45 PM, Bob W <[email protected]> wrote: >> On 26 Nov 2013, at 14:05, Aahz Maruch <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013, Bob W wrote: >>> >>> That's the way equality is. It's not a question of 'us' 'giving' >>> exposure to anyone. Every adult is free to do whatever they damn well >>> like providing they don't infringe the same rights of others. Doesn't >>> matter what their bits are like - you don't have to look at them if >>> you don't want to. All those people are 'us'. >> >> I'd be more inclined to agree without if there wasn't that pesky larger >> context. This is, after all, a world where women get paid less than men, >> have less access to political power, get raped more frequently, etc. >> >> So Frank has a point that what happens on PDML may in fact reflect that >> larger context. > > Well, I agree with you that the world is somewhat unbalanced in this respect, > and that is where the matter of free, informed consent comes into it. It's > very difficult to know in any given instance whether someone is genuinely > giving their consent freely, and I think I mentioned elsewhere the matter of > peer pressure, society pressure and so on. > > I think on a matter like this, where the people involved are apparently well > informed, and living in a liberal democracy, we have to presume that they are > fully aware of the nature of what they're doing, and we shouldn't try to > project our own reading of the situation and our own morals onto them. > > At the same time we have to stay aware that others are forced or pressured > into doing things they'd rather not and, as a society, offer them a way out > of it if they wish to take it. > >> >> I do agree with the people who say that any changes in the PDML should >> come from individuals, but if you're upset that Frank brought up the >> subject in the first place, you need to educate yourself. > > I imagine you mean 'you' in the general sense, rather than me specifically. > I'm not upset that Frank brought it up - it's an important issue, but I think > we have to be careful while striving to be well-meaning that we don't bend > over so far that we either get our heads stuck somewhere, or that we turn > into Puritans or the Taliban. > > B > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
