No one's interested that Pentax reps consistently said no FF? Oh, well, guess you guys knew that already.
Heh. Later, Marnie It's always the editorializing that gets one in trouble. ;-) In a message dated 1/13/2014 9:24:26 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: It's a Mary Quant style mini-dress with a skirt only slightly shorter than the ones girls wore when I was in high-school. You'd think some of you skipped the whole decade of the 60s & never heard of Carnaby St. On 1/13/2014 10:37 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote: > How about "provocatively" clad, Bruce? > > Bare legs, high heels, skin tight top > is definitely in the spirit of "scantily clad" > > They are still pushing the camera with a hot model instead > of someone neatly dressed in office attire.. > > Its annoying > > ann > > > On 1/13/2014 08:43, Bruce Walker wrote: >> Thanks for the booth report, Marnie. >> >> I have to wonder about your definition of "scantily clad" though. >> Aside from bare legs, the only way that girl in your shot could be >> more covered would be with a burka. >> >> The very next thing you need to learn to do on your X-5 is disable the >> date/time stamp. :-) >> >> >> On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 12:59 AM, <[email protected]> wrote: >>> I went to CES in Las Vegas and just got back. These were shot with >>> the X-5 >>> (which I got so I could take pics for the annual and PUG). >>> >>> Thoughts/reactions about CES below. And first impressions of the X-5. >>> >>> I just got the X-5 delivered from Amazon the day before I left. I >>> barely >>> had time to figure it out. It doesn't have an Av setting, so I >>> either shot >>> manual or program or green button. None of the shots are great and I >>> haven't >>> edited them. >>> >>> http://mapphotography.com/CES/index.html >>> >>> Pentax: I asked two reps if Ricoh intended a FF Pentax. I asked them >>> separately. The answer was pretty much, no. One rep said that the >>> market share >>> for FF is a sliver and too small. The other said because the 645D is >>> out >>> there ( prominently displayed), it is very unlikely. He also said >>> that USA >>> Pentax reps are the last to know. They may know a little in Japan -- >>> but only >>> when Ricoh/Pentax actually comes out with a public release do they find >>> out. I went on the trip with a friend, and he asked later too, and >>> he was >>> simply answered, no. Overall, the answer seemed to be very much, no. >>> >>> OTOH, I asked about Ricoh's support of Pentax. Very much so -- this >>> will >>> be one company that will not drop Pentax or sell it out. They are >>> heavily >>> invested and very much behind the "brand name." >>> >>> The Pentax display was understated and tasteful, except for the >>> scantily >>> clad Japanese girl sitting on a chair, pushing a button on a toy train >>> running on a track below her. Photo op, supposedly. There were >>> scantily clad >>> girls in a few places, CES is male-oriented. Evidentially there were >>> more >>> girls in previous years, but each year brings more and more women >>> attendees to >>> the show. There was a wall of K-50's, not quite sure why. The big >>> poster >>> shot of the GR was taken with the K-3, and that is partly why it was >>> there, >>> to show how large it could be blown up and not lose resolution. >>> >>> Paul's pic had an end spot, and really was one of the best there. :-) >>> >>> Okay, about the rest of CES -- it was not the primary purpose of my >>> trip. >>> I went with a friend and just wanted a trip, also saw Las Vegas, a >>> ghost >>> town, Red Rock Canyon, and the Bellagio fountain and some of the >>> casinos (I >>> don't gamble). So I did not ask a lot of questions a lot of you >>> would ask >>> and did not look at lot of things a lot of you would look at. I was >>> also not >>> solely interested in photographic equipment. >>> >>> I also went under an assumed identity, heh, as a audio/visual design >>> person (smart houses). This show is mainly for dealers who are going >>> to put in >>> large orders for products. Nothing is on sale to the public. >>> >>> So I did brief tours of two halls, well, three and a half halls. >>> >>> Other Cameras: The Nikon display was similar to Pentax's, a bit >>> bigger, >>> lots of yellow. And one seating area with a video running about some >>> camera. >>> Pentax had no video seating area. No scantily-clad girls at Nikon. >>> >>> The Canon display was much, much bigger. The emphasis there was >>> mainly on >>> their printers and other imaging products. They did have a small >>> walk-thru >>> photo gallery. And a tier of cameras. A shot of that is in the gallery >>> above. At first when I saw it I thought it was photographers taking >>> shots of >>> the show. Then I realized they were actually cameras to try out and >>> went up >>> and tried some. That was clever of them and they were the only ones >>> that did >>> that. No poles locking the cameras down to a hole in a display >>> table. The >>> two dancing girls there were wearing pants and T-shirts. WTG, Canon. >>> >>> The Sony display was one of the largest and a bit confusing. It had a >>> 'surround' video running above -- it covered a very large area with >>> their >>> products inside, much bigger than it looks in my picture. >>> >>> The camera I was, personally, most impressed with and taken by was the >>> Fujifilm (yes, moving on) X-M2. Which the rep told me had just >>> started being >>> shipped in November. She only had one, it was so new, although she had >>> several X-M1s. >>> >>> CES: The show/convention/conference overall, was overwhelming. It is >>> HUGE. Most people were there to do business and see specific items. >>> If you >>> didn't have a focus it was pretty confusing. Lots and lots of >>> booths, but the >>> most overwhelming part was simply the massive number of people walking >>> around. Almost worse than Disneyland during summer. About 150,000 >>> attend, so it >>> was busy, busy all the time. Most were wearing black. The >>> racial/ethnic mix >>> was mainly White and Asian. At least the shuttle buses between >>> venues were >>> good (there is a three-hall convention center, two stories, and things >>> spilled over into three other hotels). >>> >>> I had very interesting discussions with a cable company owner and a >>> representative of GSM (Global Standards for Mobile) on the shuttle, >>> one on the >>> way, and one on the way back. >>> >>> PMA: PMA was also there. Unfortunately it was in the last stop, all >>> travel between buildings was by foot, and after a very long walk >>> down looping a >>> corridor, back and forth, linking buildings, we found it. Since it >>> was in a >>> different building and so far away, it's attendance was low. We >>> spent time >>> in the Black Rapid booth, and learned that PMA will probably fade away. >>> Because the big camera companies were in the main hall, the PMA was >>> mainly >>> support equipment: bags, tripods, etc. >>> >>> What were the most interesting things I saw? I was interested in any >>> high-tech sci-fiy thing, not just cameras. And I really took a >>> cursory look at >>> most of the things I saw. >>> >>> The Black Rapid guy had an add-on lens on his iphone. Three little lens >>> adaptors that rotated, one wide angle, one fish eye, and one >>> telephoto. He >>> wasn't sure if it was available for other phones and I never found >>> the booth. >>> But it was intriguing and seemed well designed. >>> >>> Drone photography. I took no pics. But they are orderable at B&H. The >>> large one no, the consumer ones, yes. It was fascinating. >>> >>> 3-D printing. That made me feel the future is really here. Large WOW >>> factor. Heh. Think replicators from Star Trek. Honestly and truly. >>> Though right >>> now they can only replicate with polymers and not very large items >>> yet. But >>> the technology is there and it will improve and develop. Totally >>> revolutionary. About five companies were there, all with different >>> orientations >>> (many with a research/product prototyping focus). But two were marketing >>> consumer 3-D printers and two were marketing 3-D scanners, as well, one >>> hand-held. All very impressive and futurist and oh-my-goddess. >>> >>> If you want to know more about the 3-D printing, just ask. I have some >>> literature and was going to google and research. >>> >>> Real photos to come. >>> >>> The X-5, meh. It is a Pentax, but... well, I was warned. I still >>> have to >>> play with it more, but the viewfinder is only adequate. That's the >>> best way >>> I could describe the whole camera, for a point and shoot it is >>> adequate and >>> nothing to write home about. It does have a green button and it is >>> cute. >>> It looks like a mini-DSLR, so you don't feel stupid wearing it >>> around. But >>> if it wasn't a Pentax, I really wouldn't have bothered. >>> >>> Marnie aka Doe :-) I wish I had more specific impressive insider >>> camera >>> stuff to tell you, but I don't. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> [email protected] >>> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >>> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above >>> and follow the directions. >> >> >> > -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
