Oh, forgot. The rep that said they are the last  to know, also pointed out 
they would have to bring out a whole new set of lenses  (ignoring legacy 
lenses), that all the new lenses now are designed for the APS-C  sensor.

In a message dated 1/12/2014 10:00:01 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  
[email protected] writes:
I went to CES in Las Vegas and just got back.   These were shot with the 
X-5 
(which I got so I could take pics for the  annual  and PUG).

Thoughts/reactions about CES below. And first  impressions of  the X-5.

I just got the X-5 delivered from Amazon  the day before I left.  I barely 
had time to figure it out. It doesn't  have an Av setting, so I either  
shot 
manual or program or green  button. None of the shots are great and I  
haven't 
edited them.   

http://mapphotography.com/CES/index.html

Pentax:  I  asked  two reps if Ricoh intended a FF Pentax. I asked them 
separately.  The answer was  pretty much, no. One rep said that the market 
share 
for  FF is a sliver and too  small. The other said because the 645D is out  
there ( prominently displayed), it  is very unlikely. He also said that  
USA 
Pentax reps are the last to know. They  may know a little in Japan  -- but 
only 
when Ricoh/Pentax actually comes out with  a public release  do they find 
out. I went on the trip with a friend, and he  asked later  too, and he was 
simply answered, no. Overall, the answer seemed to  be  very much, no.

OTOH, I asked about Ricoh's support of Pentax. Very   much so -- this will 
be one company that will not drop Pentax or sell it  out.  They are heavily 
invested and very much behind the "brand  name."

The  Pentax display was understated and tasteful, except for  the scantily 
clad  Japanese girl sitting on a chair, pushing a button  on a toy train 
running on a  track below her. Photo op, supposedly.  There were scantily 
clad 
girls in a few  places, CES is male-oriented.  Evidentially there were more 
girls in previous  years, but each year  brings more and more women 
attendees to 
the show. There was  a wall of  K-50's, not quite sure why. The big poster 
shot of the GR was taken   with the K-3, and that is partly why it was 
there, 
to show how large it  could be  blown up and not lose resolution.

Paul's pic had an end  spot, and really  was one of the best there. :-)

Okay, about the  rest of CES -- it was not  the primary purpose of my trip. 
I went with  a friend and just wanted a trip,  also saw Las Vegas, a ghost 
town, Red  Rock Canyon, and the Bellagio fountain and  some of the casinos 
(I  
don't gamble). So I did not ask a lot of questions a lot  of you would  ask 
and did not look at lot of things a lot of you would look at. I   was also 
not 
solely interested in photographic equipment.

I also  went  under an assumed identity, heh, as a audio/visual design 
person  (smart houses).  This show is mainly for dealers who are going to 
put in  
large orders for  products. Nothing is on sale to the public.

So  I did brief tours of two  halls, well, three and a half halls.

Other  Cameras:  The Nikon  display was similar to Pentax's, a bit bigger,  
lots of yellow. And one seating  area with a video running about some  
camera. 
Pentax had no video seating area.  No scantily-clad girls at  Nikon.

The Canon display was much, much bigger.  The emphasis there  was mainly on 
their printers and other imaging products. They  did have  a small 
walk-thru 
photo gallery. And a tier of cameras. A shot of that   is in the gallery 
above. At first when I saw it I thought it was  photographers  taking shots 
of 
the show. Then I realized they were  actually cameras to try out  and went 
up 
and tried some. That was  clever of them and they were the only ones  that 
did 
that. No poles  locking the cameras down to a hole in a display table.  The 
two dancing  girls there were wearing pants and T-shirts. WTG,  Canon.

The Sony  display was one of the largest and a bit confusing. It  had a  
'surround' video running above -- it covered a very large area with  their  
products inside, much bigger than it looks in my  picture.

The camera I  was, personally, most impressed with and  taken by was the 
Fujifilm (yes, moving  on) X-M2. Which the rep told me  had just started 
being 
shipped in November. She  only had one, it was  so new, although she had 
several X-M1s.

CES:   The  show/convention/conference overall, was overwhelming. It is 
HUGE. Most   people were there to do business and see specific items. If 
you 
didn't have  a  focus it was pretty confusing. Lots and lots of booths, but 
the  
most  overwhelming part was simply the massive number of people walking  
around. Almost  worse than Disneyland during summer. About 150,000  attend, 
so it 
was busy, busy  all the time. Most were wearing black.  The racial/ethnic 
mix 
was mainly White  and Asian. At least the shuttle  buses between venues 
were 
good (there is a  three-hall convention  center, two stories, and things 
spilled over into three  other  hotels).

I had very interesting discussions with a cable company   owner and a 
representative of GSM (Global Standards for Mobile) on the  shuttle,  one 
on the 
way, and one on the way back.

PMA:   PMA was also there.  Unfortunately it was in the last stop, all 
travel  between buildings was by foot,  and after a very long walk down 
looping a  
corridor, back and forth, linking  buildings, we found it. Since it was  in 
a 
different building and so far away,  it's attendance was low. We  spent 
time 
in the Black Rapid booth, and learned  that PMA will  probably fade away. 
Because the big camera companies were in the  main  hall, the PMA was 
mainly 
support equipment:  bags, tripods, etc.   

What were the most interesting things I saw? I was interested in  any  
high-tech sci-fiy thing, not just cameras. And I really took a  cursory 
look at  
most of the things I saw.

The Black Rapid guy  had an add-on lens on his  iphone. Three little lens 
adaptors that  rotated, one wide angle, one fish eye,  and one telephoto. 
He 
wasn't  sure if it was available for other phones and I  never found the 
booth.  
But it was intriguing and seemed well  designed.

Drone  photography. I took no pics. But they are orderable at  B&H. The  
large one no, the consumer ones, yes. It was  fascinating.

3-D  printing. That made me feel the future is really here.  Large WOW  
factor. Heh. Think replicators from Star Trek. Honestly and truly.   Though 
right 
now they can only replicate with polymers and not very large  items  yet. 
But 
the technology is there and it will improve and  develop. Totally  
revolutionary. About five companies were there, all  with different 
orientations  
(many with a research/product prototyping  focus). But two were marketing  
consumer 3-D printers and two were  marketing 3-D scanners, as well, one  
hand-held. All very impressive  and futurist and oh-my-goddess.

If you  want to know more about the  3-D printing, just ask. I have some 
literature and  was going to google  and research.

Real photos to come.  

The  X-5, meh. It  is a Pentax, but... well, I was warned. I still have to 
play with  it  more, but the viewfinder is only adequate. That's the best 
way 
I could   describe the whole camera, for a point and shoot it is adequate 
and 
nothing  to  write home about. It does have a green button and it is cute. 
It  looks like a  mini-DSLR, so you don't feel stupid wearing it around. 
But  
if it wasn't a  Pentax, I really wouldn't have bothered.

Marnie  aka Doe :-)  I wish  I had more specific impressive insider camera  
stuff to tell you, but I don't.  


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