On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 11:06:46AM -0700, Bob Blakely wrote: > > > Japan and most of east asia (china, phillipines etc) are still not on > > the best of terms. What is history and what is recent past are very > > subjective. Its great that many animosities went by in a couple of > > generations -- that is source of hope that things turn out well. It is > > also true that some didn't -- and that is a warning that things can go > > wrong. > > Yes. There are many persons like you in this world willing to dig the > knife into old wounds.
"old wounds" and "new wounds" are subjective. Deep wounds tend to take longer to heal. > > > Blind optimism that all animosity goes away is idiocy. > > Nothing I said suggests that blind optimism, or any kind of optimism > for that matter. All was said to show that things can be different. And there was no need to show that. If that is all you wanted to show, it was irrelevant or it meant to me what i said above. > > > Some of it needs harder scrubbing to wipe out. > > This is work, an internal work of the heart, and you are unwilling to > do it. No one else can do it for you. Ultimately, it is a choice. > That would have made a good movie dialogue but is completely pointless when you try saying that to the victims. What are you trying to imply by me unwilling to do it ? What are you referring to ? Since this is totally tangential to QM's thread, what are you talking about ? > > > Each of these case is different enough that the only "rule" you can > > carry over from one to the next is: everyones better off if its > > worked out instead of letting it smoulder. > > You not only let it smolder, you've fanned it to flames. This is > clearly evident from this thread. You espouse one thing and do > another. Really ? And how did you conclude this ? > > You dont whack bin laden on the head and say "dude, be enlightened. > > Dont harbor hatred of centuries past." That wont work. He already > > has it. He is a gone case. What is important is to realise that > > whether its unenlightened or not, such hatred exists and its better > > dealth with before it causes a disaster. > > Again, you fail to grasp what was said concerning things that are a > present danger and those things that no longer present any threat. and you fail to grasp what could become a danger in future. > > > ..................... What is important is to realise that whether its > > unenlightened or not, such hatred exists and its better dealth with > > before it causes a disaster. > > Yes, and the hatred that exists that is the topic of this thread is in > your heart. And the idiocy in your head. And there are plenty more convenient lines that can be thrown around here to only make this more surreal. What hatred in this thread are you talking about? Sept 11 ? animosity between nations ? You are mixing up 2 OT threads. As it is, i dont hate the QM. > So far, you have been unwilling to deal with it in any manner other > than fermentation of the hatred and justification for fermentation of > the hatred. What are you talking about ? > > > And I am not learning history at princeton. On the contrary, I avoid > > all current news which isnt of immediate significant impact to my > > day to day life. > > Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it! - > George Santayana. *immediate significant impact* has some meaning. > One of the lessons of history is what happens when a people cannot let > go of the past. > It would be nice if you can impart this lesson to women who were used as sex slave by japanese during WWII and convince them to not ask for a japnese apology. The lesson is not to let go of it but how to handle it. - This message is from the Pentax-Discuss Mail List. To unsubscribe, go to http://www.pdml.net and follow the directions. Don't forget to visit the Pentax Users' Gallery at http://pug.komkon.org .
