On Sat, Feb 08, 2014 at 09:16:35PM -0500, Glen Berry wrote:
> This is going to be a difficult question to answer without showing
> comparison images, but can anyone give me some sort of idea how
> noisy a K-30 is, compared to the much older K-100D?

I went from a K100 to a K20 which was a small jump in high ISO performance
to a K-x which was a huge jump above that, to a K-5 which was another 
big jump.  Since the K-30 has the same sensor as the K-5 (I believe),
the big difference is the 12 vs 14 bit D/A, I expect that the improved
high ISO performance to be somewhere between mind blowing and orgasmic.

Dxomark shows the high ISO of the K30 in the same range as the
K5 and the Kx.
 
> One of the things that bugs me the most about the older cameras like
> the K-100D, is the very noticeable noise at higher ISO's. With every
> step above ISO 200, I can notice additional noise in the image. I
> think ISO 3200 is horrible.

Above about ISO 800 IIRC on the K100, they stop boosting the analog
gain and just use math to boost the ISO.  You might as well just 
underexpose at ISO 800.

> I've read comments from folks who had much newer DSLR's of various
> brands, and some of those folks seem content with ISO 3200 on THEIR
> camera, and I think I've even read a few mentions of folks being
> satisfied with ISO 6400 for certain applications.

With the K-5, I often shoot in excess of ISO 6400.  
This set of a burrowing owl was shot with the K-5 at ISO 10,000.

I consider it much better than merely satisfactory.

http://www.fluidr.com/photos/ellarsee/sets/72157634684347823/


> 
> So, how good is the K-30 with regards to high ISO noise, and try to
> compare it to an older model like the K-100D if you can. I'm hoping
> the K-30 will let me shoot a few stops higher ISO without
> sacrificing quality. Would that likely be correct?

If not an understatement.

> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Glen
> 
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