Here's another article discussing this Yahoo change. It suggests that there's a fix that email list operators may be able to implement fairly easily, depending on the list software in use of course.
http://www.spamresource.com/2014/04/up-in-arms-about-yahoos-dmarc-policy.html I have no idea if Doug can do anything about the PDML list though. (It runs on GNU Mailman) On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 8:13 PM, Bruce Walker <[email protected]> wrote: > On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 7:53 PM, Brian Walters <[email protected]> > wrote: >> Quoting Matthew Hunt <[email protected]>: >> >>> On Tue, Apr 8, 2014 at 6:55 PM, Igor Roshchin <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Just in case: >>>> If you are concerned about e-mails that you are sending to PDML from >>>> your Yahoo account via Yahoo smtp servers, than the recent change >>>> described in the links posted by Matthew should not affect you. >>>> >>>> It affects only Yahoo users who are sending e-mail via smtp servers >>>> OTHER than those from Yahoo. >>>> >>>> (The second link's post explains how to fix the problem: >>>> "Endusers can do a couple things. For one-to-one mail make sure you're >>>> using the Yahoo outgoing mail servers and that should fix the problem >>>> without you having to really make any change." ) >>> >>> >>> The Yahoo change does affect him, in the sense that his emails to the >>> PDML will be marked as spam for those of us who receive them on Gmail >>> and certain other providers. >>> >>> John uses Yahoo's SMTP servers to send mail to the PDML. The PDML mail >>> server sends John's mail (with a Yahoo "From" address) to my Gmail >>> account (and everyone else on the list). Gmail sees the mail with >>> John's Yahoo "From" address, but it didn't come from Yahoo's SMTP >>> server--it came from the PDML mail server. Gmail, as requested by >>> Yahoo's DMARC records, marks that message as spam. >>> >>> Basically, people with Yahoo addresses can't participate effectively >>> on mailing lists anymore. >> >> So, what on earth is Yahoo's justification for this? Some sort of security >> issue? >> >> To the uninformed masses (me included), it just seems nuts. > > It's a misguided (and misfiring) attempt by Yahoo to cut down on spam. > Yes, it's nuts. They don't call 'em Yahoo! for nothing. > > http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9247512/Yahoo_email_anti_spoofing_policy_breaks_mailing_lists > > Anyone sending mail from a Yahoo account to the PDML should go get > another email account, not on Yahoo, and use that for PDML mail. Until > Yahoo smartens up, or forever, whichever is shorter. > > The other fix is for _everyone_ to install an email filter that > exempts all PDML mail from spam filtering. Unhappily, that is doomed > as lots of folks don't know how and filters can have annoying > side-effects (like in Gmail). > > -- > -bmw -- -bmw -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
