Yes, a better image for sure! I’ll concede game set and match to Steve - Towhee 
it is. Thanks, Steve, for expanding my repertoire.       

stan

On 18 May 2014, at 13:12, John <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 5/17/2014 9:36 PM, steve harley wrote:
>> On Sat, May 17, 2014, at 18:53, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
>>> Nope _ Stan had it - Rose-breasted grosbreak.  The towee I know well
>>> from Maine (and elsewhere) .  Confusion understandable at a glance, but
>>> note the very white bit on his front and the magenta tone to the color.
>>> Their size and chubbiness is similar
>> 
>> with due respect, i am going to stick to my ID, which was from
>> familiarity backed with sources
>> 
>> first tip off for me was the red color is on the side, google image
>> search, plus ibird pro app, show all RB grosbeaks with white sides, red
>> concentrated to the front and center breast, while RS towhees live up to
>> their name with red extending along the side
>> 
>> as for the beak, the color in the photo is oversaturated, but i think
>> the beak is black; pinkish legs are also indicative (the grosbeak has
>> grey)
>> 
>> of many sources, these are pretty clear (scroll down to the photos)
>> 
>> <http://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/rose-breasted_grosbeak/id>
>> <http://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Eastern_Towhee/id>
>> 
>> 
> 
> The beak is kind of grey.
> 
> I got two frames of it. Here's the other one. You can see the beak a
> little better & where the red is on the side & maybe how much it creeps
> around to the front (or not) ... if that helps:
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/jb_sessoms/14027832057/
> 
> This actually might be a slightly better image of it.
> 
> The magenta cast might be an artifact of the scan software's "restore
> color" & "restore fading" functions. I tried it both ways & the image
> that resulted from not using them was horribly washed out, but when I do
> use them the image is over-saturated.
> 
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