In Japan, the population is declining and the countryside is emptying out. There’s even a word, Haikyo, for the hobby of exploring and photographing such places. See http://www.haikyo.org/
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 12:53 PM, P.J. Alling <[email protected]> wrote: > My point is for what ever reason people aren't evenly distributed, > populations tend to clump for what ever reason. Abandoned buildings are > abandoned for lots of reasons not least of which is no one want's to live > where those buildings are, and if you do a little research, you'll find that > most of those brand new ghost cities in China are surrounded by farming > villages full of people who can't afford to live in the brand new city, and > every vibrant existing Chinese city has it's equivalent of a shanty town or > slum where the newly arrived collect. They can't afford decent housing > either. > > If you shipped people to most of the abandoned buildings in in those > pictures, you'd need guards to keep them there. > > The problem you have in SA is that no matter what it looks like, it's easier > to live in a shanty town than on the land. You implied so yourself. > > On 6/28/2014 9:20 AM, Alan C wrote: >> >> I think the Chinese are pre-empting urbanisation & don't want shanty towns >> as in so many parts of the world. Look again in a few years. Those empty >> cities will become new growth points. It also won't be long before the >> urbanised masses start demanding their "rights" more forcefully. >> >> Many poor people around the world would be only to happy to live in >> abandoned buildings but they are denied access. In Africa, the land is >> becoming deserted through urbanisation. Hello shanty towns, because there is >> no money, unlike in China. Farming today is a serious business - the days of >> tenant farming on 6 acres is over. In SA, although the blacks say they want >> the land back (not the tribal land or state owned land, but rather the >> successful "white" owned farms), they don't really want to farm. What they >> are actually after is cash compensation so they can buy decent housing in >> the cities, but who will pay? >> >> Alan C >> >> -----Original Message----- From: P.J. Alling >> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 6:32 PM >> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> Subject: Re: OT - Abandoned places pics >> >> The population density of the world isn't uniform. There are huge empty >> places. I don't know how reliable the estimate or how reliable my >> memory but, a few years ago I remember reading that if you took the >> entire human population of the world, at the time, and transported them >> the US states of Texas and Colorado, and divided up the land equally >> among them, each person would have a bit in excess of 6 acres or a >> little over 4000 square meters all to themselves. 6 acres by the way is >> the traditional measure for enough land to feed a family in Ireland. >> >> Now I wouldn't want to try to feed a family of four let alone a >> traditional Irish Family on 6 acres in West Texas, but, there's plenty >> of room for abandoned places. The world isn't nearly as crowded as one >> would think. >> >> If you think old abandoned places are bad, what do you make of the "New" >> abandoned places in China, they're still building empty cities there. >> >> >> http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-ideas/inside-china8217s-ghost-cities/story-e6frfqd9-1226716277487 >> >> On 6/27/2014 12:01 PM, Alan C wrote: >>> >>> Regardless of the quality or otherwise of the photos, it is quite >>> astonishing that many of the buildings & structures could be abandoned at >>> all. >>> >>> Alan C >>> >>> -----Original Message----- From: Steve Cottrell >>> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 5:42 PM >>> To: pentax list >>> Subject: OT - Abandoned places pics >>> >>> Some will find this fascinating... >>> >>> <http://dashburst.com/pic/abandoned-places/> >>> >> >> > > > -- > A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the > crazy, crazier. > > - H.L.Mencken > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and > follow the directions. -- - Tim Bray (If you’d like to send me a private message, see https://keybase.io/timbray) -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.

