In Japan, the population is declining and the countryside is emptying
out.  There’s even a word, Haikyo, for the hobby of exploring and
photographing such places.  See http://www.haikyo.org/

On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 12:53 PM, P.J. Alling
<[email protected]> wrote:
> My point is for what ever reason people aren't evenly distributed,
> populations tend to clump for what ever reason.  Abandoned buildings are
> abandoned for lots of reasons not least of which is no one want's to live
> where those buildings are, and if you do a little research, you'll find that
> most of those brand new ghost cities in China are surrounded by farming
> villages full of people who can't afford to live in the brand new city, and
> every vibrant existing Chinese city has it's equivalent of a shanty town or
> slum where the newly arrived collect.  They can't afford decent housing
> either.
>
> If you shipped people to most of the abandoned buildings in in those
> pictures, you'd need guards to keep them there.
>
> The problem you have in SA is that no matter what it looks like, it's easier
> to live in a shanty town than on the land.  You implied so yourself.
>
> On 6/28/2014 9:20 AM, Alan C wrote:
>>
>> I think the Chinese are pre-empting urbanisation & don't want shanty towns
>> as in so many parts of the world. Look again in a few years. Those empty
>> cities will become new growth points. It also won't be long before the
>> urbanised masses start demanding their "rights" more forcefully.
>>
>> Many poor people around the world would be only to happy to live in
>> abandoned buildings but they are denied access. In Africa, the land is
>> becoming deserted through urbanisation. Hello shanty towns, because there is
>> no money, unlike in China. Farming today is a serious business - the days of
>> tenant farming on 6 acres is over. In SA, although the blacks say they want
>> the land back (not the tribal land or state owned land, but rather the
>> successful "white" owned farms), they don't really want to farm. What they
>> are actually after is cash compensation so they can buy decent housing in
>> the cities, but who will pay?
>>
>> Alan C
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: P.J. Alling
>> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 6:32 PM
>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List
>> Subject: Re: OT - Abandoned places pics
>>
>> The population density of the world isn't uniform.  There are huge empty
>> places.  I don't know how reliable the estimate or how reliable my
>> memory but, a few years ago I remember reading that if you took the
>> entire human population of the world, at the time, and transported them
>> the US states of Texas and Colorado, and divided up the land equally
>> among them, each person would have a bit in excess of 6 acres or a
>> little over 4000 square meters all to themselves.  6 acres by the way is
>> the traditional measure for enough land to feed a family in Ireland.
>>
>> Now I wouldn't want to try to feed a family of four let alone a
>> traditional Irish Family on 6 acres in West Texas, but, there's plenty
>> of room for abandoned places.  The world isn't nearly as crowded as one
>> would think.
>>
>> If you think old abandoned places are bad, what do you make of the "New"
>> abandoned places in China, they're still building empty cities there.
>>
>>
>> http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-ideas/inside-china8217s-ghost-cities/story-e6frfqd9-1226716277487
>>
>> On 6/27/2014 12:01 PM, Alan C wrote:
>>>
>>> Regardless of the quality or otherwise of the photos, it is quite
>>> astonishing that many of the buildings & structures could be abandoned at
>>> all.
>>>
>>> Alan C
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Steve Cottrell
>>> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 5:42 PM
>>> To: pentax list
>>> Subject: OT - Abandoned places pics
>>>
>>> Some will find this fascinating...
>>>
>>> <http://dashburst.com/pic/abandoned-places/>
>>>
>>
>>
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