Talk about midwest farm living. Farm machinery changed the midwest. We moved from 100 acre farms to 1,000 acre farms. People moved to the cities. Lots of towns just dried up and blew away. Many of the structures are still there, Regards, Bob S.
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 7:05 PM, Tim Bray <[email protected]> wrote: > In Japan, the population is declining and the countryside is emptying > out. There’s even a word, Haikyo, for the hobby of exploring and > photographing such places. See http://www.haikyo.org/ > > On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 12:53 PM, P.J. Alling > <[email protected]> wrote: >> My point is for what ever reason people aren't evenly distributed, >> populations tend to clump for what ever reason. Abandoned buildings are >> abandoned for lots of reasons not least of which is no one want's to live >> where those buildings are, and if you do a little research, you'll find that >> most of those brand new ghost cities in China are surrounded by farming >> villages full of people who can't afford to live in the brand new city, and >> every vibrant existing Chinese city has it's equivalent of a shanty town or >> slum where the newly arrived collect. They can't afford decent housing >> either. >> >> If you shipped people to most of the abandoned buildings in in those >> pictures, you'd need guards to keep them there. >> >> The problem you have in SA is that no matter what it looks like, it's easier >> to live in a shanty town than on the land. You implied so yourself. >> >> On 6/28/2014 9:20 AM, Alan C wrote: >>> >>> I think the Chinese are pre-empting urbanisation & don't want shanty towns >>> as in so many parts of the world. Look again in a few years. Those empty >>> cities will become new growth points. It also won't be long before the >>> urbanised masses start demanding their "rights" more forcefully. >>> >>> Many poor people around the world would be only to happy to live in >>> abandoned buildings but they are denied access. In Africa, the land is >>> becoming deserted through urbanisation. Hello shanty towns, because there is >>> no money, unlike in China. Farming today is a serious business - the days of >>> tenant farming on 6 acres is over. In SA, although the blacks say they want >>> the land back (not the tribal land or state owned land, but rather the >>> successful "white" owned farms), they don't really want to farm. What they >>> are actually after is cash compensation so they can buy decent housing in >>> the cities, but who will pay? >>> >>> Alan C >>> >>> -----Original Message----- From: P.J. Alling >>> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 6:32 PM >>> To: Pentax-Discuss Mail List >>> Subject: Re: OT - Abandoned places pics >>> >>> The population density of the world isn't uniform. There are huge empty >>> places. I don't know how reliable the estimate or how reliable my >>> memory but, a few years ago I remember reading that if you took the >>> entire human population of the world, at the time, and transported them >>> the US states of Texas and Colorado, and divided up the land equally >>> among them, each person would have a bit in excess of 6 acres or a >>> little over 4000 square meters all to themselves. 6 acres by the way is >>> the traditional measure for enough land to feed a family in Ireland. >>> >>> Now I wouldn't want to try to feed a family of four let alone a >>> traditional Irish Family on 6 acres in West Texas, but, there's plenty >>> of room for abandoned places. The world isn't nearly as crowded as one >>> would think. >>> >>> If you think old abandoned places are bad, what do you make of the "New" >>> abandoned places in China, they're still building empty cities there. >>> >>> >>> http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-ideas/inside-china8217s-ghost-cities/story-e6frfqd9-1226716277487 >>> >>> On 6/27/2014 12:01 PM, Alan C wrote: >>>> >>>> Regardless of the quality or otherwise of the photos, it is quite >>>> astonishing that many of the buildings & structures could be abandoned at >>>> all. >>>> >>>> Alan C >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- From: Steve Cottrell >>>> Sent: Friday, June 27, 2014 5:42 PM >>>> To: pentax list >>>> Subject: OT - Abandoned places pics >>>> >>>> Some will find this fascinating... >>>> >>>> <http://dashburst.com/pic/abandoned-places/> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> A newspaper is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant, and the >> crazy, crazier. >> >> - H.L.Mencken >> >> >> -- >> PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List >> [email protected] >> http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net >> to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and >> follow the directions. > > > > -- > - Tim Bray (If you’d like to send me a private message, see > https://keybase.io/timbray) > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > [email protected] > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
