I did try RawTherapee it was traumatic.  My first install failed.

On the second, every, and I do mean every, time I attempted to open a K20D PEF. The procedure would be right click on file, choose RawTherapee to open file, and then depending on the whim of the Gods the splash screen would appear and that would be it, Windows wouldn't even lent me kill the process, (claimed I couldn't shut down a program while it was being debugged, to bad I didn't have a debugger installed on that machine), or it would get past the splash screen and then simply, disappear, but leave a few subsiary processes that I couldn't remove short of a reboot, (I am a Microsoft certified professional, so I'm pretty helpless if I can't reboot a system...). So, what if I started the program then navigated to a directory that contained the files? Funny you should ask, doing that would cause the program to crash, while rendering the thumbnails, with the message that RawTherapee had preformed an illegal operation, which left a number of sub processes that once again required a reboot etc., etc.

By the way, RawTherapee had no problems opening *ist-D and Ds files, or displaying their thumbnails, though a lot of operations, well, let's rephrase that, pretty much all operations took several times longer than RSE, at it's worst, actual picture editing was a painful proposition, but I wasn't quite ready to give up.

I spent a couple of weeks trying to get further information out of RawTherapee's fora, and contacting them with the specifics of my OS hardware configuration, camera, firmware, which was eventually met with the return message, most dreaded, "We are unable to duplicate the problem." After which I uninstalled the program, having wasted enough of my time. I figured, I'd try it again in some future release, if I didn't discover an acceptable solution elsewhere.

About that time I came upon the Kludge that allowed me to install Pentax Digital Camera Utility 4.x without an original disk, discovered that the UI was vastly improved, over previous versions, and I used that for a couple of years until I was able to upgrade Photoshop to CS2 and use Bridge to do my Raw rendering.

The free version of DXO Optics Pro 8, is very promising, I haven't quite mastered it yet, but it looks like the only thing I'll have to do in PhotoShop is add the lettering for my web images copyright notice, which I had automated at one time, but somehow lost the "macro", (in quotes because I know Adobe doesn't call them macros.

Maybe I'll look at RawTherapee, again it's been a few years, however if Optics Pro 8 lets me render acceptable images from my RAW files, and allows me to print them directly, with reasonable results, I'll probably spend a few bucks and actually buy a copy of Optics Pro 9, unless Adobe buys them...






On 12/7/2014 11:48 PM, Boris Liberman wrote:
On 12/7/2014 18:53, P.J. Alling wrote:
I'll just ignore what everyone else has said and answer here.

Such ignorance won't give you bliss, sir :-).

There have been enough stories, even here, about Lightroom users wanting
to for one reason or another wanting to find their original files but
not knowing how, as Lightroom moved them somewhere, (imported them into
it's database), and not being able to figure out how to get them back.
Adobe want's to control your "photographic" life, they're the Microsoft
of imaging, it they do it through creating superior products, well I
can't fault them for that, however if it's done by making it as
difficulty as possible to back out for other purely arbitrary
"mechanical" reason, I'm not OK with that,

Can it be that there is a confusion between data and metadata here. Lightroom is non-destructive editor by definition. That is, it does not change your files (unless you explicitly tell it so). The database in question is that of the metadata - the editing settings, the keyword tags, the ratings, etc.

Now, Lightroom does not offer you any default or automatic manner in which you organize your work and/or files on disk(s). Therefore, in general, if a person tends to be disorganized, and as a result lose things, then it is likely to happen in this context too. Otherwise - well, otherwise...

Don't blame the tools if you don't know the trade. (Not you personally, naturally)

Since then I've been trying to find a product that lets me control where
my files live, without having to use their interface that is as straight
forward as RSE.

Have you tried RawTherapee??? There is even portable version for Windows, at least.

Lightroom vs Photoshop is a false dichotomy, there are a number of RAW
processors, some are quite good, that don't lock you into the Adobe
ecosystem, and dictate how you work, none are as seamless as Lightroom
has become but then again I've never ended up scratching my head
wondering how to get my files back either.

You seem to have made the same point thrice in a course of a single message. Just saying...


Boris





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