To clarify - I dislike all those works of Seward Johnson's that take
iconic images and reproduce them in this manner. (I actually like the
LIFE photo as a photo-journalistic grab shot and it certainly expressed
the spirit of the day. My personal memory of that day is sharing a
glass of champagne with a chihuahua - something neither of us should
have been doing - but on that day odd things were permitted.
I'd call Lik's pic -schlock- rather than -kitsch- off the top of my
head, could go either way on Johnson's great big mistakes.
This is all from my gut, not from a dictionary mind you.
Somehow I'm not offended by extreme sendups of truly great and serious
works of art if they are playfully done and show a kind of originality
of their own. (E.g. the take-off of Hopper's Nightbirds with Bogart,
Dean, Marilyn works for me.)
Johnson's stuff doesn't have those qualities.
ann
On 12/14/2014 16:34, Bob W-PDML wrote:
I don't know if ann finds the statue offensive for the reason that others
have suggested the original photo is offensive, but I think all of
those statues are
offensive because they're kitsch, as is the photo of the canyon that
sold for several million dollars.
Coincidentally Roger Scruton has been writing a (very, very poor)
series of articles on the BBC about Art with a capital A, and today he
discusses kitsch:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-30439633
I think his historical claims are wrong, but he describes kitsch quite well.
He promises to reveal to us next time how to tell kitsch from Shinola, so that
should bring down photography prices pretty sharpish.
B
On 14 Dec 2014, at 19:47, John <[email protected]> wrote:
If I knew, I wouldn't have to ask.
On 12/13/2014 6:55 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
If ya have to ask, ya don't know :-)
ann
On 12/13/2014 14:50, John wrote:
What about it makes it offensive?
On 12/12/2014 9:49 PM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
Am I the only one that finds the sculptures a little offensive?
I know the _photo_ well, Dan - the one Alfred Eisenstadt shot for LIFE
Magazine - and I actually saw back then as my parents subscribed to both
LIFE and LOOK. (I was almost 9 years old on VJ day...)
I think the world's largest cow in... (is it NORTH Dakota?) fares well
in comparison :-)
ann
On 12/12/2014 00:40, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
Like many of Seward Johnson's sculptures, it is based on a great work
of art, in this case an iconic photo.
The sculpture was displayed on Times Square for a while.
Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
On Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 11:18 PM, Ann Sanfedele <[email protected]>
wrote:
Like the shot, hate the sculpture -
ann
On 12/11/2014 21:49, Rick Womer wrote:
A runner-up for this month's PUG, also from the Grounds for
Sculpture in
central New Jersey:
http://photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=17922124
(K-5, DA 16-45)
Comments appreciated!
Rick
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