Looking it up on HP's website, looks like it supports up to 16GG of RAM.
I'd ask one of the computer salesdroids at Staples to make sure.

OTOH, if you're not doing a lot of power intensive editing, 4GB might be
enough.

On 4/30/2015 1:53 PM, P.J. Alling wrote:
Pretty much what Bruce said, I'd have to look it up, but I think that
Win7 takes up twice as much room in RAM as XP, before you start running
programs, (that's the 32 bit versions, the 64bit versions use more RAM
but also support more RAM).  Using a 64bit version of the OS won't help
if your hardware limit has been reached.

On 4/30/2015 12:18 PM, Bruce Walker wrote:
The not too technical answer to why 4Gig is small today is because
OSes only ever get bigger, and apps only get bigger, and data only
ever gets bigger.

My new iMac has sixteen (count 'em!) gigabytes of RAM and I have
already managed to max it out. Now I don't expect you'd be trying this
stunt, but I loaded-up K-3 12 DNG files from Lightroom into Photoshop
and proceeded to composite them. It worked, but when I tried to do
something else the iMac became very unresponsive while the disks got
real busy. It was swapping memory like crazy for many minutes before I
could continue.

Trust us when we say that you need more than 4 Gig RAM. :)


On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 12:13 PM, Ann Sanfedele <[email protected]>
wrote:
Thanks P.J. ... could you elaborate without getting to super techy on
why 4
gig would be constraining on 7 vs XP?

And a question for the class... while I think about it..
I want to save about 20,000 emails from Thunderbird to my external
harddrive
- where are they hiding? (the external is a 1t seagate)

T I a
ann


On 4/30/2015 11:44, P.J. Alling wrote:
It looks pretty good, fast enough, with a pretty big HD. The only
potential problem I see with it is the Ram is already maxed out at 4
gig. That would be fine using Win XP, it might be a bit constraining
with Win7.

On 4/30/2015 11:40 AM, Ann Sanfedele wrote:
BRuce,
tahnks for suggestion but...

No no and no - I loathe Macs, I've been using windows for over 20
years .. Using my friends mac is agony. It is NOT simpler at all and
physically annoying . Not to mention I have stuff that wont run on
a mac.

It isn't true, either, that macs are safe from viri these days and
the problems I'm having are nothing to do with a virus.

Now boys and girls,
I saw this offer from Staples on line


http://www.staples.com/HP-8000-Win-7-Pro-Refurbished-SFF-Desktop-PC-4GB-RAM-1/product_591658?externalize=certona



Comments?

I think the best thing for me to do is get a refurbed computer with
Win 7 on it... Use that for web, and keep my lovely old dell for
working off line , rather than installing 7 on it. I did that
before when
I upgraded, kept my old windows 98 bus that had things on it I didnt
want to lose and could only run on that...

annsan
windows bigot :-)


On 4/30/2015 10:04, Bruce Walker wrote:
Ann, not to be "that Mac bigot", but have you considered an
inexpensive Mac? Sounds like you can use your neighbors Mac with no
trouble. It might just be a more pleasant way for you to get back on
the air again. No more virus worries, simpler to work (in general).

If you bought a Mac Mini for $499 you can use your existing monitor
(through a cable adapter: Mini DisplayPort to VGA Adapter), keyboard
and mouse. I'd suggest a refurb Mac Mini but they don't have any
right
now.

Just a wild thought.

On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 1:37 AM, Ann Sanfedele<[email protected]>
wrote:
well it looks like time has come -


what can you guys tell me about this?


Dell's "Inspiron Small Desktop 3000 Series with Windows 7
Professional"

It's under $400 -

advice needed

for reasons I can't explain (but somehow Avast is involved), I can't
sign into any site that I go to that needs me to sign in..

I'm pretty much a wreck - using a neighbor's mac for ebay access..

I can browse, I can send email, but I can't log in to anything
buy my time warner account

now I hvae to try to sleep

ann




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