It's interesting, for sure. Just because I might not choose one doesn't mean I 
don't find it worthwhile. 

I hope they do well with it. Getting people out of their cars is a pretty tough 
sell. 

You've spawned an interesting discussion. Thanks.

Cheers,

frank

On November 13, 2015 5:34:39 PM EST, John <[email protected]> wrote:
>I just figured you and some others here might find it interesting.
>
>It has a dual chain drive setup & I think they said the drive wheel is
>free-wheeling. One chain is driven by pedal power and the other is
>driven by an electric motor mounted on the frame under the seat. I
>don't
>think they have any kind of regenerative braking, but they may be
>working on that for the future.
>
>The FAQ says the solar panel will recharge the standard battery from 0
>to 100% in approximately 8 hours, but it also includes a plug in
>charger
>that will do the job in about 2.5 hours.
>
>They offer 26" studded tires as an accessory for anyone who wants to
>ride this thing in ice & snow. But I didn't see any kind of doors or
>side protection from the weather offered among the accessories.
>
>Company website: http://organictransit.com/
>
>On 11/13/2015 6:43 AM, knarf wrote:
>> My preference is a normal bicycle. But then I'm a cyclist.
>>
>> These guys obviously want to appeal to non-cycists. They wanted it to
>> look like a little car. If they really wanted aerodynamics they could
>> have done it cheaper and more aerodynamically:
>>
>> http://www.hpvelotechnik.com/produkte/streamer/
>>
>> I agree with Malcolm, that thin fiberglass or composite shell will
>> give a false sense of security. They even used the word "protection"
>> in the video when referring to the shell. Protection from the
>> elements perhaps, but not crash protection.
>>
>> The large-ish, bright shell will help with visibility in traffic (a
>> huge problem with recumbents). But I'm not convinced that the weight
>> penalty would be offset by aerodynamic gains.
>>
>> One thing they didn't mention much in the first part of the video
>> (before I got bored and turned it off) is the electric assist motor
>> (hub assist motors are common in cargo bikes, BTW). I noticed a solar
>> panel array on the roof; perhaps that's the reason for the large cab?
>> I'm guessing the motor is powered by a combination of solar panel
>> electricity and captured momentum energy while coasting or slowing
>> down. That electric assist is probably a huge part of its higher top
>> speed.
>>
>> I think this is interesting but only really useful in warmer weather
>> areas without a lot of rain (or snow!). I'm not sold on recumbents
>> for a number of reasons I need not get into now.
>>
>> I think I'd prefer a regular, upright, bicycle. But I'd like to give
>> one of those things a spin, just for fun.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> frank
>>
>>
>>
>> On November 13, 2015 6:15:51 AM EST, Malcolm Smith
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> Larry Colen wrote:
>>>
>>>> Bob W-PDML wrote:
>>>>> Can't see the point of pedalling all that unnecessary weight
>>>>> round.
>>>> Just ride a bike.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I suspect that on flat ground, the improved aerodynamics would
>>>> make
>>> up
>>>> for the excess weight. Plus it might be more comfortable in the
>>>> rain. The problem isn't so much the extra forty pounds in weight,
>>>> as much
>>> as
>>>> the extra four thousand pounds in cost.
>>>>
>>>> I am a bit perturbed that they make it difficult to find out
>>>> many details of it, such as weight.
>>>
>>> These things give you a false sense of security, in something that
>>> offers no real protection at all and gives you loads of blind
>>> spots. It might be substantially heavier than a normal cycle, but
>>> it offers a lot of surface area to throw you sideways into traffic
>>> in a crosswind. Buy a normal cycle.
>>>
>>> Malcolm
>>

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