A timely spectacle!

J

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> On Sep 26, 2016, at 7:08 AM, Igor PDML-StR <pdml...@komkon.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> This morning someone sent me a link to a brief blogpost on Cnet, which got me 
> (re)evaluating - (re)thinking certain aspects of photography in our lives. 
> The photo was of a crowd in front of a famous politician waving at them, 
> while most people turned their backs and taking selfies of themselves with 
> the famous people being the background.
> (The link is below, but first the thoughts.)
> 
> Over many years of taking photographs, sometimes as tourist (i.e. in very 
> touristic places, etc.), - I've been offered by others (friends, relatives, 
> bystanders) to take a picture of _me_. ... or rather of _me__being__there_.
> Not that I was against those (and sometimes I did want some picture, 
> especially with friends or family), but I was not particularly ego to get 
> those. I wanted to take some interesting (at least to me) of the views from 
> that place.
> One of the repeated questions/comments I had (usually not from close friends 
> or relatives who already knew what I am after, but from more distant 
> friends): "Why do you need those? - See there, they sell cards with this view 
> already printed."
> 
> Why was/am I taking those photos?
> 1. I enjoy _taking_ them and
> 2. I enjoy looking at them later, as they remind me of good time I had there. 
> And often, aftre many years, I remember the photos I've taken even without 
> looking at them: they are a connection for that place, person, event. ... 
> even though I might not be in those pictures myself.
> (As an aside, - I appreciate the fact of being in some of those photos more 
> now, as my daughter is growing up, - so, that she can see her dad in those 
> photos too.)
> 
> Now, getting back to the conclusion quoted in the Subject of this message.
> Yes, selfie is the fad du jour [is that tautology?].
> To this date, most of the selfies I've taken are with my SLR (with a tripod 
> or a mirror help). But I don't want to judge those people who enjoy selfies: 
> to each of his/her own. And to some extent, those people aren't that much 
> different from those stranger on the street who are ego to pose for you even 
> though they are never going to see that photo. (This was a very frequent 
> situation with kid groups in Japan.)
> 
> 
> My understanding of the said blogpost is that someone is trying to question 
> of how polite it is to take a selfie with a famous person (and hence turning 
> one's behind to her/him) as opposed to piercing with your eyes and listening.
> 
> That brought to memories yet another story. Long time ago, one famous Russian 
> poet wrote a song that was "thinking" about a family being photographed in 
> front of the monument to the famous Russian poet Alexandr Pushkin. The idea 
> was based on the juxtaposition of the timelessness and greatness of someone 
> whose fame survived the test of centuries, and "todayliness" of the concerns 
> and that-minute problems of that family. I remember that a friend was 
> thinking that the author was criticizing the family, and that that type of 
> photo was awkward or even ridiculous due to the contrast. While I understand 
> that point of view (and I personally do not like taking photographs of people 
> (and myself) specifically with someone's _personal_ monument), I never felt 
> comfortable with that criticism. And I've always thought that the song's 
> author was just bringing up the contrast as a way to highlight the 
> simultaneous distance and closeness of the great and small, old and 
> contemporary, timeless and tra
 nsient.
> 
> But back to today's photo, here is what I am curious to hear from you, deal 
> PDMLers:
> As photographers with different preferences, views and reasons to take 
> photographs, what do you think about what is shown in the photograph 
> discussed in that blogpost?
> (Please, let's not digress into a political debate about the specific 
> politician, so, let's keep the political comments on mute.)
> 
> Here is the blogpost in question: https://goo.gl/VC5fU3 .
> 
> Thanks in advance to all who will respond.
> 
> Igor
> 
> 
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