That paragraph beginning "So it gets critical acclaim..." is not what I wrote, but what I quoted. Somehow the quoting gets lost in the journey to or from the server.
As I said, I quite like Lindbergh's style, and I like these pictures, but let's not get confused about their purpose. B > On 21 Dec 2016, at 20:38, Godfrey DiGiorgi <godfreydigio...@me.com> wrote: > > Yup. Except I think you are a little over the top in your criticism. > > It is an art piece and a collectible, a part of what Pirelli does to foster > the brand. Whether it appeals to you or not is a matter of personal decision. > Lots of people collect them, and collect books printed as collections of them > (see Amazon.com, search for Pirelli calendar). > > I've seen one in the flesh. Nicely done printing, good paper, etc. The person > who owned it had a bunch of interesting calendars, the Pirelli was one of > them. It's what she collected, and got a lot of entertainment out of. Nothing > wrong with that. > > "Pin-up girls" for the ordinary Joe (whoever that is)… passé since the 1950s. > I haven't seen such things in an actual motorcar or motorcycle shop since I > was old enough to go to such shops. That was fifty years ago… > > G > > >> On Dec 21, 2016, at 12:22 PM, Bob W-PDML <p...@web-options.com> wrote: >> >> The calendar is a marketing gimmick. If they had stuck to standard garage >> wall fare nobody would pay any attention at all. >> >> Several decades ago some smart ad man realised they could get an annual >> burst of cheap global publicity by confounding expectations. They do this by >> giving carte blanche to big name photographers. And it works. >> >> This stuff is not for hanging in garages or museums, it's for middle-brow >> collectors to show their rich friends. >> >> I happen to like Peter Lindbergh's style - I have one of his books - but >> he's just a talented fashion photographer. His photos are no more realistic >> depictions of 'real' women than are photos in Playboy - these women are all >> Hollywood stars (those I recognize, anyway) - his job is to sell an image of >> women that will make them go out and spend money on expensive trash. >> >> So it gets critical acclaim from the usual suspects, and, a little more joy >> is sucked out of the life of some ordinary Joe, so Pirelli can make a >> stupid, and not particularly valid, post modern, point. >> >> Pirelli aren't making a point, they're running an annual ad campaign. They >> don't give a shit about your ordinary Joe, or about women's empowerment and >> body image, they just want lots of media time for their brand, and they get >> it. >> >> The "Calendar Girls" calendar did far more for women and for art than the >> Pirelli calendar ever did or ever will. >> >> B > > > -- > PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List > PDML@pdml.net > http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net > to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow > the directions. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
