That's simply because most drivers are used to automatic transmissions with discrete gears. I don't prefer either, given a choice I'd take a manual transmission any day. I'd also like to mention the fact that with the current generation of car thieves a manual transmission is an unintended anti theft device.

On 7/17/2017 9:59 AM, Ken Waller wrote:
That constant acceleration - lack of shift feel is subjectively seen by some 
drivers as a negative, so much that some manufacturers have added a shift feel 
to their CVT transmissions so as to eliminate the constant acceleration feel.


-----Original Message-----
From: Zos Xavius <zosxav...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: OT -Unexptected Good News from Subaru

My mom has a CVT Nissan Sentra. Its pretty peppy between 0 and 80.
What's nice is that once it starts accelerating it doesn't stop. Just
smooth acceleration until you take your foot off the pedal.

On Sun, Jul 16, 2017 at 11:04 PM, Paul Stenquist <pnstenqu...@mac.com> wrote:
I'd be worried about CVT durability, but for me, the main drawback is the 
driving feel. My 2014 Equinox has an 8-speed automatic, it feels great with a 
peppy 3- liter four, and has been trouble free. Nothing but oil changed thus 
far.

Paul via phone

On Jul 16, 2017, at 10:48 PM, Mark C <pdml-m...@charter.net> wrote:

Hi Igor -

I'm certainly happy with Subaru's decision to extend the warranty on their 
CVT's and to provide retroactive compensation. I don't expect to be using the 
money for a new lens. I'm pretty happy with the lenses I have - turns out that 
hanging onto good full frame glass was not a mistake The only lens that I am 
tempted to replace is the FA 20-35 f4, but I can't get a good handle on its 
performance on the K1. Sometimes it shines, sometimes it's a dud. It's clearly 
better (marginally) on film than on the K1 in terms of edge and corner 
sharpness. It also seems to be better at the long end than at 20mm. I recently 
fine-tuned the AF - and it needed about 5 steps of correction IIRC - so I'm 
hoping that helps. But I seldom shoot wider than 28mm so I don't feel too 
motivated to upgrade to the DFA 15-30.

I suspect that the reimbursement from Subaru will go into the VW repair fund. 
My wife's 2009 Tiguan seems to develop a $500 - $1000 problem every 10K or so. 
In the past year and a half we've replaced the timing chain, PCV system, rear 
main seal (blew out when the PCV system failed) and water pump. Last Thursday 
the dealership told me that both rear springs are broken - I need to get that 
checked out by an independent mechanic. Seems odd that both springs would break 
at the same time and that the car would still ride just fine.

Good luck with your car search. CVT's are a fact o life these days but they 
seem to be prone to funky and fatal errors. I would do serious research on any 
CVT vehicle.

Mark

Igor PDML-StR wrote:
Hi Mark,

I was just thinking about you and your Subaru CVT a few time in the past week. 
(We are looking for a car right now.)

I am glad to hear that good news. I'd say that's probably an indicator of 
Subaru being one of the better manufacturers (behavior-wise). (Even though they 
should've admitted their problems much earlier.) And your local dealership is 
also among the better once since they've covered 50% even before this event.

Nissan gave us all sort of problems with our CVT (on Rogue) over the past 9 
year, starting from the 1st year.  And both, our dealership and the corporate 
office were very bad to address these problems. They were refusing to admit the 
problems despite the symptoms, until the transmission failed completely. And 
for the 2nd time, they were delaying admitting the problem it until the mileage 
was beyond the limit.

After almost 20 years of owning Nissans (not exclusively), I am too afraid to 
buy any Nissan at this point: all models I would be potentially interested in 
have CVTs, and Nissan CVTs are plagued with problems, and Nissan is bad 
addressing them.

Speaking of "impressive" warranties (mentioned by Alan), - I've just learned that the 
"best industry warranty" advertised by Hyundai is to a large extent a gimmick: Only the 
1st owner is eligible for the 10 yrs/100k miles (powertrain) warranty, for the subsequent owners it 
is 5yrs/60K.
(Additionally, there is practically no "bumper-to-bumper", large portion of the coverage 
of the "limited" warranty ends within the 1st year.)
Kia's "industry-best" warranty is a similar gimmick.

Anyway, - I am glad Mark for you. Despite the headache, at least you didn't 
suffer as much of the financial hit...

And the most intriguing question (for this list):
Are you going to buy some new lens with the unexpected ~$4K?
;-)


Igor


Mark C Sat, 15 Jul 2017 20:46:26 -0700 wrote:

Just over a year ago I posted about the failure of my Subaru CVT transmission, 
and appreciated the advice I got here.


Yesterday I received a notice from Subaru that they have retroactively extended 
the warranty on the CVT's to 10 years / 100K. The letter included a claim form 
to get reimbursement for out of pocket repair costs for those of us who had 
their CVT fail. Subaru picked up 50% of the cost to replace my transmission but 
I was still out of pocket about $4000 - good on Subaru to step and cover this 
problem.


Mark


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