The book appears to be quite good. But I think a digital camera is a must. Kids 
live online, and he’ll undoubtedly want to post digital photos. Instant cameras 
are old people toys. A good phone is better than many point and shoots. My 
iPhone 7 allows extensive rendering options with the provided apps. Add on apps 
expand that capability.

Paul

> On Mar 8, 2018, at 6:26 PM, Bob W-PDML <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> You obviously know nothing of masochism and rope...
> 
>> On 8 Mar 2018, at 18:51, mike wilson <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Your masochism knows no bounds.
>> 
>>> On 08 March 2018 at 16:36 Bob W-PDML <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> At the same time I was learning photography I was also starting to read 
>>> French literature...
>>> 
>>>> On 8 Mar 2018, at 15:57, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> You crack me up, Bob! That's a great line ...! :-)
>>>> 
>>>> When I was that age, I'd already bought my own first camera (a Minolta 
>>>> 16-P which cost me the grand sum of $19 at Camera Craft in New Rochelle, 
>>>> NY), having been given a couple of Kodak cameras before then. But I wanted 
>>>> something more adjustable. My mother loaned me her Argus C3... with which 
>>>> I learned a great deal about ruining film until I figured out how to work 
>>>> aperture, shutter speed, and focus. AND remembered to wind on to the next 
>>>> frame before re-cocking the shutter. 
>>>> 
>>>> There really isn't a modern equivalent. I'd never start a youngster on a 
>>>> 35mm film camera nowadays, and any digital camera today has way more 
>>>> capabilities and automation ... And the expectations of young people today 
>>>> are quite different from my expectations of a camera in 1968. 
>>>> 
>>>> However, as a teacher of photography, my goal in getting people who are 
>>>> interested started out is to let them begin with focus and understanding 
>>>> light, and understanding the difference between what your eyes see and 
>>>> what the camera might record. Nothing on the market today would start a 
>>>> young person off with a better basic understanding of those things than an 
>>>> instant film camera with manual focus, and it would also serve to give 
>>>> them the immediate return on their effort that is so important to the 
>>>> learning experience. Something like the Lomo Instant Square I obtained 
>>>> recently or a Polaroid SX-70 with the Polaroid Original film would do a 
>>>> great job of teaching these things, and would also be special, different, 
>>>> from the smartphone experience in ways that would be beneficial to 
>>>> learning how to be patient, how to be economical of exposures, and how to 
>>>> "look, think, and consider" before shooting. 
>>>> 
>>>> G
>>>> —
>>>> No matter where you go, there you are.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 8, 2018, at 7:22 AM, Bob W-PDML <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sounds like he needs an adult real-life lesson that will leave him 
>>>>> feeling inadequate, unloved and in despair at the pointlessness of 
>>>>> existence, so anything by Pentax will do.
>>>>> 
>>>>> When I was about that age someone bought me an Instamatic, which quickly 
>>>>> frustrated me, but one of my schoolfriends had an Olympus Pen-F (the 
>>>>> half-frame one) and we could use the school darkroom, so I learned a bit 
>>>>> with that. There is a digital version now - something like that would 
>>>>> probably be good.
>>>>> 
>>>>> B
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 8 Mar 2018, at 14:31, Eric Weir <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> A sister has asked me for advice on a beginning camera for her grandson. 
>>>>>> He’s 12, intelligent, creative, self-disciplined—all-in-all pretty 
>>>>>> precocious about many things. I have my own thoughts, which may not be 
>>>>>> best, but wondered what y’all might recommend.
>>>>>> 
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