following this Rick. Ever since i upgraded to 10.11.6 my old PC HD is
a case is not reg by the computer asnymore

Dave

On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 6:14 AM, Jan van Wijk <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Rick,
>
> On Tue, 27 Mar 2018 23:04:33 -0700 Larry Colen wrote:
>>
>>>Two of my three external hard drives aren't working: One has an irreparably 
>>>damaged partition map,
>
> Irreparable by what, 'Disk Utiliy' ?
> Do you know what filesystem was used, was it HFS (macOS specific) or perhaps 
> simply FAT32?
>
>>and another (my main external drive) has its light blink for a few seconds 
>>and click, but doesn't show up at all.
>
> Does not show up in the Finder I guess, but not in Disk Utility either?
>
> The Finder will not see it if there is no mountable filesystem found, perhaps 
> due to damaged partition tables,
> it is quite possible that the Disk Utilty still sees it, meaning the USB 
> connection and drive are at least working.
>
>>>Could the crashing i/o card on the old Mini have damaged these drives? Is 
>>>there any way to repair the one that's not showing up at all?
>
> Hard to say without further analysis, if it does not show up ANYWHERE (Disk 
> Utility, other disk-tools)
> then it is likely to be a problem with the disk hardware, or perhaps the 
> USB-enclosure ...
>
>
>>My guess is that they are USB drives?  Spinny drives?
>>
>>Are they powered from the wall or over the USB cable?
>>
>>Can the drives be removed from their case and read directly as SATA drives?
>
> Good suggestion, but not so easily done. Not sure if the mac-mini has extra 
> SATA ports ?
> (I have only used and older iMac and a 2013 macBook pro sofar, so not 
> familiar with it)
>
>>I haven't done that level of programming on USB and/or hard drives, but while 
>>I could see a partition map being splattered by random writes, it's hard to 
>>imagine physical damage to hard drive itself.
>
> Indeed.
>
> Partition tables (MBR, and parts of GPT ones too) are close to the start of 
> the disk,
> and that is the most likely area to get damaged when programs go astray ...
>
>
>>Something like this and some good disk recovery software might solve your 
>>issues:
>>http://www.kingwin.com/storage/docking-stations/ezd-2535/
>
> Indeed, I have a similar one ...
>
>>Or just move the hard drives to different cases and see if a different 
>>USB<->SATA controller does a better job.
>>
>>In the short term, get another external drive so you don't mess things up 
>>irreperably.
>
> Yes, good advice.
>
> If the data on the drives is valuable at all (meaning no other backups)
> you should make a copy (clone) of the disk, then attempt repair or
> file recovery from that copy ...
>
>>To be extra safe, you could try getting a couple of docks/cases, then maybe 
>>use dd to make a direct copy of your old drive to your new drive, then try to 
>>repair the partition table on the new drive.
>
> Right, with chances of the drives being damaged, perhaps use 'ddrescue' 
> instead (to be downloaded, use google)
>
>
> If you are somewhat comfortable using the commandline, you could also try my 
> own multiplatform
> disk-tool that can do an analysis of the disk, and search for missing 
> partitions (MGR or GPT style)
> using the 'Analyse disks for support' menu item in the 'scripts' menu.
>
> It is text-mode, and runs in the macOS Console, but DOES have a menu system.
> I have assisted in dozens of partition-recoveries over the years using this 
> tool.
>
> You need to install it from a ZIP-archive, then run a 'setup' script to set 
> the permissions right,
> and create some symlinks and then run it with ROOT privileges (for example by 
> using 'sudo')
> which will be done automatically if you use the 'dfs' symlinked script.
>
> You can download the installation ZIP from my website:
>
>         https://www.dfsee.com/dfsee/download.php
>
> Make sure to read the '/doc/dfsinst.txt' from that archive for further 
> installation tips,
> look for the Linux/OS-X section.
>
>
> I'll be available for further assistance if you choose to go this route ...
>
>
> Regards, JvW
>
>
>
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