I use an electronic scale to measure avoirdupois ounces for recipes. Many 
recent recipes call for measuring dry sugar ingredients by weight rather than 
volume. It’s generally more accurate.

Paul

> On Jun 24, 2018, at 3:30 AM, Bob W-PDML <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I have a set of Le Creuset cup measures which have the ml equivalent stamped 
> on. I also have a set of French coffee cups in two sizes, and a supposedly 
> 8-cup French press for coffee.
> 
> The Le Creuset cup measure is 237ml. 
> 
> This exactly fills the larger French coffee cup, which is the size you get 
> when you order a grand crème in France. 
> 
> The smaller French cup has the same capacity as the Le Creuset 1/2-cup, and 
> is the size you get when you order un café. It is twice the size of a 
> demi-tasse, in which you would get a single espresso.
> 
> The Bodum 8-cup French press holds 4 Le Creuset cups (948ml) of liquid.
> 
> Therefore, a US cup is twice the size of a standard European coffee cup.
> 
> Bonus information: a mug of the type we drink tea from is slightly larger 
> than a US cup, there being about half an inch spare lip space left when full 
> of tea, to stop it spilling.
> 
> Extra bonus: I have no idea what a fluid ounce is, and not enough capacity 
> left in my head to hold that information.
> 
> The great benefit of cup (and spoon) measures for cooking is that you can 
> easily picture them, and don't have to fanny around; if the recipe says 125cc 
> sugar and 200ml of honey you don't know whether they're both one tsp, or a 
> tbsp or what, so you have to measure them, but 2 cups of flour and a tsp of 
> salt is easy.
> 
>> On 24 Jun 2018, at 07:44, mike wilson <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> But if you're using fluid ounces (20/pint) instead of avoirdupois ounces 
>> (16/lb) to measure powders like flour and suchlike, your recipes are going 
>> to be, er, interesting......
>> 
>>> On 23 June 2018 at 22:08 ann sanfedele <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> p.s.  one does use liquids when baking  - but I should have said "cook" 
>>> much .
>>> 
>>> Interestingly - or not, one uses the same vessels measuring solids and 
>>> liquids following recipes.
>>> 
>>> ann
>>> 
>>>> On 6/23/2018 4:48 PM, mike wilson wrote:
>>>> That's fluid ounces.  And American ones are smaller than Imperial ones.  
>>>> So we still don't know.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 23 June 2018 at 20:39 ann sanfedele <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> properly, 1 cup = 8 oz , 2 cups = one pint, 4 cups = 1 quart...
>>>>> 
>>>>> guess you guys don't bake much :-)
>>>>> 
>>>>> ann
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 6/23/2018 1:30 PM, John Sessoms wrote:
>>>>>> One of the questions that is hard to answer is "How much coffee is a
>>>>>> cup?" I think it's loosely based on the French "Tasse à café".
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Looking it up on-line, I found a claim that the "standard" was 5fl oz
>>>>>> of liquid in a 6fl oz cup leaving 1 fl oz of head-room to allow the
>>>>>> customer to add cream & sugar to taste without spillage. That comports
>>>>>> well with the new, replacement Corelle Ware coffee cups I bought last
>>>>>> week, whose label says they're 11 fl oz (2x5+1). **
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Just as a side experiment, I filled my "4-Cup" Mr. Coffee carafe
>>>>>> according to instructions for making 4 cups and then poured the water
>>>>>> out into measuring cups. It came to 24fl oz.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Going by what the Mr. Coffee carafe holds, "2 large mugs" is the
>>>>>> equivalent of "4 cups". If I fill my favorite coffee mug from the Mr.
>>>>>> Coffee carafe, the remainder will almost always be at just about the
>>>>>> "2 cups" mark.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 6/22/2018 21:03, Rick Womer wrote:
>>>>>>> 2 large mugs of coffee on the morning.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> A large mug of strong tea (PG Tips) in the afternoon.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Wine or beer with dinner.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> A cup of decaf after dinner 2-3 times a week.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Keeping all of the bases covered...
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Rick
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jun 22, 2018 at 13:12 Jostein <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Darn.
>>>>>>>> Hate to reduce my intake... :-D
>>>>>>>> Jostein
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Den 22.06.2018 00:02, skrev John:
>>>>>>>>> A study published Thursday in the journal "PLOS Biology" suggests
>>>>>>>>> that 4
>>>>>>>>> cups of strong coffee daily may be the ideal way to improve how the
>>>>>>>>> cells inside blood vessels work.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> http://www.businessinsider.com/coffee-heart-health-4-cups-might-be-ideal-2018-6
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Four cups of strong coffee a day might be the recipe for a healthy
>>>>>>>>>> heart, especially for older adults.
>>>>>>>>> I have a 4-cup Mr. Coffee that I got as a wedding present back in
>>>>>>>>> 1974.
>>>>>>>>> It lasted even if the marriage didn't.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I've had to replace the carafe twice (glass & clumsy don't mix that
>>>>>>>>> well) and with the last replacement I bought a spare (still in the
>>>>>>>>> bubble wrap) just in case, so I hope it will continue to serve for
>>>>>>>>> another 44 years if I'm lucky enough to live to be 112.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> ** The original cups that came with my Corelle Ware were some 6fl oz
>>>>>> things with a flattened rim that I could never drink out of without
>>>>>> spilling.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://images.replacements.com/images/images1/china/C/P0000017061S0061T1.jpg
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I had to replace a broken plate & there's a Corning Outlet store
>>>>>> nearby, so when I was up that way, I stopped in. In addition to the
>>>>>> plate, I went ahead & bought a set of 4 cups.
>> 
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