Nest cameras are a different kettle of fish, Dan. They are automated and can be set up before the birds settle in. Especially with the large birds of prey which conveniently return to the same nest year after year. It is the photographer's presence by the nest that cause the disturbance more than the picture-taking itself.

It seems that the same rules of engagement, if one can call it that, is recommended by some concerned parties in the USA too. Have a look: https://nestwatch.org/connect/news/nest-photography-guidelines/

Interesting comparison to whales. Bit of a paradox with Sea World, isn't it?

Btw, did you read about the "tame" beluga whale with a harness that showed up on Norwegian shores this winter? It was clearly seeking contact and being very accustomed to taking food from human hands. Rumor has it that Russians have a programme to train belugas for underwater recon and scooping up mines, among other things.

https://www.dw.com/en/mystery-whale-found-near-norway-fuels-russian-navy-speculation/a-48536688

There's some added photography relevance there in that Audun Rikardsen, the professor quoted in the article is himself a champion of the BBC Nature Photo Contest a few years ago.

Jostein

Den 31.05.2019 15:18, skrev Daniel J. Matyola:
Interesting comments, Jostein.
In the US there are many nest cameras, especially those of the nests of
eagles and other raptors.  I have never seen the kind of negative reaction
of which you speak, nor have I head of any laws such as you describe.
It sounds like the Scandinavians feel about their birds the way Americans
feel about whales.

Dan Matyola
http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola


On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 5:08 AM Jostein Øksne <[email protected]> wrote:

Looks like a fun project, Larry.

Nest photography is an amazing way to learn about bird behaviour. Be
candid about how you present the photos in various settings though. I
guess you know that nest photography is a controversial issue. From a
quick web search it seems less so in the US than here, but in this
globalised day and age... :-)

In the Nordic countries it is generally discouraged. In Finland, it's
illegal without a license for a particular project, punishable by fines
based on publised photos. In Norway and Sweden, it's more about mob
justice. There is a very large overlap between nature photographers and
birdwatchers in general, so birds are in particular focus for ethical
issues (which currently extends to a massive opposition to wind
turbines, btw).

Jostein

Den 31.05.2019 08:46, skrev Larry Colen:
I set up a light that really helps with the photos of the Steller's
jay nest.  Shortly thereafter the second parent (my guess is Dadbird)
showed up to feed everyone.  Here's a shot with both parents, and
several chicks visible

https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/47970534238/in/album-72157708849514267/

I'm uploading the full set now. It seems as if the new flickr
infrastructure isn't quite back up to full speed. If anyone's
interested in the full set, which also has some shots of one of the
parents in my yard:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/albums/72157708849514267

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