> On 18 June 2019 at 07:33 John <jsessoms...@nc.rr.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> On 6/16/2019 14:14:31, mike wilson wrote:
> >> On 16 June 2019 at 18:56 John <jsessoms...@nc.rr.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On 6/16/2019 13:37:47, Larry Colen wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> John wrote on 6/16/19 10:33 AM:
> >>>> It's not a pigeon, and both of them look like cardboard cutouts.
> >>>
> >>> If not a pigeon, what is it?
> >>>
> >>
> >> Looks like a Eurasian Collared-Dove. They're an invasive species in Texas 
> >> & the
> >> Southeastern U.S., although they have been spotted as far west as Oregon.
> >>
> >> https://www.texasinvasives.org/animal_database/detail.php?symbol=22
> >>
> >> Pigeons (what we call pigeons here in the U.S.) are doves, but not all 
> >> doves are
> >> pigeons.
> >>
> > It (the species) invaded the UK in the early 50s.  By 1972 it was where I 
> > lived halfway up England, at which point I moved 200 miles north.  It took 
> > until the mid 1990s to reach me and it is ubiquitous now.  I saw them in 
> > Edinburgh, 150 miles north, earlier this year so the spread appears to be 
> > slowing.  The damned things never shut up.
> 
> The Eurasian Collared-Dove? or the Rock-Dove that we call pigeons here in the 
> U.S.? ... I don't remember if Rock-Doves are native to the U.S. or not, but I 
> thought they were native in the U.K.
> 

Collared dove.

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