> On Dec 28, 2019, at 11:37 AM, Larry Colen <[email protected]> wrote: > > ... > One thing I really like about On1 is that they have a focus peaking review > mode. I haven’t compared their HDR and panorama software with lightroom. > They also have focus stacking that could be handy.
There's much to like in On1's feature set. They have some nice things that LR doesn't do. But your comments highlight one of my basic annoyances with On1: they do not document adequately the basic operations of the software itself, or make it particularly apparent without some insight and creativity of your own. > Here are the questions that I’ve sent to them, however since it’s now the > weekend, I don’t expect an answer before the special is over? > --- >> I suspect this might be a bug report. >> I tried to get back to the state of a fresh installation, so I did an >> uninstall and reinstall of photo raw. >> When I tried to migrate my lightroom (6) catalog, and photo raw came up, all >> of my keywords were still in photo raw, even though I hadn't imported any >> photos. There are at least two directories in ~/Library/Application Support with names that start with "ON1" which contain a bunch of caches and subfolders with small dbs in them. THOUSANDS of them. There is also a directory in /Library/Application Support named "ON1", but mine had no visible files in it. The uninstall app does not remove these directories, and only if they (and all the XXX.on1 sidecar files paired with every original file that you told the app to look at) are deleted do you get to the state of a fresh installation. >> Related question.... >> Do all the migration tools work with lightroom 6? Or just lightroom CC? I used the migration tools with Lightroom 6.14 and they worked fine, if very very slowly. Took well over three days to finish processing the 190,000 entries in my main LR database, and some were not convertable. I have a couple of dozen different LR catalogs, but three are critical to my photo work on an ongoing basis. Frankly, I don't trust On1 to process them all well enough that I could discard the LR catalogs. >> Some of the photos seem to be getting the development data, some not. >> It’s also gone through and imported everything from my home directory. >> I've been working on learning photo raw and importing my small lightroom >> catalog on my travel computer. >> None of the lightroom settings are coming over, I've tried various things, >> and I'd like to delete all the photos from photo raw, but not from the hard >> drive, and start all over. >> I've tried starting by holding the shift key. >> I've also tried deleting all of the .on1 files, >> it's still wedged. >> I can't find the database. >> How do I bring it back to "start”? >> On1 Photo RAW XXXX should only look at the directory tree that you tell it the root of. Of course, if you're doing an LR conversion and that tree in the LR database has any link to the root of your user directory, it will one way or another process your entire user directory (and possibly litter it with .on1 sidecar files). Some photos it understands the rendering parameters, others not. I haven't figured out the whys and wherefores of that. All standard IPTC data is ingested and some EXIF data, it seems, on a file by file basis. For some LR operations it renders out a TIFF, I think. For others, it cannot read the parametric instructions and it drops the ball completely. As I said, operation of the software is unclear. I'm not in love with any software that litters my storage drives with its sidecar files in tons of places that I don't know about or expect. When I wrote a script to remove all the .on1 sidecar files from my working external drive, it deleted 238,000 small files. (!) >> I'm reading the user guide and it doesn't mention an option for only >> importing new photos. >> I can see two possibilities, if there is already a sidecar file, photo raw >> could just skip that file. Or, it could copy the new file off of the memory >> card of the camera to the new location (rather than just skipping it if its >> there) and overwrite the sidecar file. On1 Photo RAW operates like a file browser with image processing capabilities. If you only want to import new photos, be careful not to import your Lightroom catalog, create a new directory for each new import, and then add that new directory explicitly to the On1 app's "known file locations" so it can process the new files. Clumsy at best. >> I'm looking to buy photo raw (assuming it will run on my desktop computer at >> home). I read someplace that there isn't a way to back up my edits, like >> backing up a lightroom catalog. >> It's hard to believe that such an important basic feature was missed. There's no way internal to the app that I've found. The external way is to simply use backup software that manages backing up and archiving the directories that On1 has been told to process as well as the sub-directories in /Library/Application Software and ~/Library/Application Software that I mentioned above. Basic message: On1 Photo RAW is not a DAM. Lightroom is like a DAM with image processing capabilities, not a file browser. On1 Photo RAW is an interesting app and has some usefulness, but for the present I've erased it from my system and am getting work done again with LR Classic. Next setup that I'm studying use of is Photos enhanced with RAW Power, as I mentioned before. Meanwhile LR Classic costs me $10 a month… Until I find the right replacement for LR, that's inexpensive compared to not getting my photography done. :-) G — "No matter where you go, there you are." -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
