> On Dec 28, 2019, at 1:37 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On Dec 28, 2019, at 11:37 AM, Larry Colen <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> ... >> One thing I really like about On1 is that they have a focus peaking review >> mode. I haven’t compared their HDR and panorama software with lightroom. >> They also have focus stacking that could be handy. > > There's much to like in On1's feature set. They have some nice things that LR > doesn't do. > > But your comments highlight one of my basic annoyances with On1: they do not > document adequately the basic operations of the software itself, or make it > particularly apparent without some insight and creativity of your own.
That is also frustratingly true of Lightroom, it’s just that after ten years of using lightroom I’ve gained some intuitive understanding. When they changed the editing engine, they specifically did not describe how all the sliders work. > >> Here are the questions that I’ve sent to them, however since it’s now the >> weekend, I don’t expect an answer before the special is over? >> --- >>> I suspect this might be a bug report. >>> I tried to get back to the state of a fresh installation, so I did an >>> uninstall and reinstall of photo raw. >>> When I tried to migrate my lightroom (6) catalog, and photo raw came up, >>> all of my keywords were still in photo raw, even though I hadn't imported >>> any photos. > > There are at least two directories in ~/Library/Application Support with > names that start with "ON1" which contain a bunch of caches and subfolders > with small dbs in them. THOUSANDS of them. There is also a directory in > /Library/Application Support named "ON1", but mine had no visible files in > it. The uninstall app does not remove these directories, and only if they > (and all the XXX.on1 sidecar files paired with every original file that you > told the app to look at) are deleted do you get to the state of a fresh > installation. > >>> Related question.... >>> Do all the migration tools work with lightroom 6? Or just lightroom CC? > > I used the migration tools with Lightroom 6.14 and they worked fine, if very > very slowly. Took well over three days to finish processing the 190,000 > entries in my main LR database, and some were not convertable. I have a > couple of dozen different LR catalogs, but three are critical to my photo > work on an ongoing basis. Frankly, I don't trust On1 to process them all well > enough that I could discard the LR catalogs. One reason that I’m sticking with LR6. I can always go back to Lightroom and work on the photos that are already in my catalogs. If I went to CC classic then as soon as I stop paying the ransomware, I wouldn’t be able to. > > As I said, operation of the software is unclear. I'm not in love with any > software that litters my storage drives with its sidecar files in tons of > places that I don't know about or expect. When I wrote a script to remove all > the .on1 sidecar files from my working external drive, it deleted 238,000 > small files. (!) Yeah, there are some real issues with the way they do that. > >>> I'm looking to buy photo raw (assuming it will run on my desktop computer >>> at home). I read someplace that there isn't a way to back up my edits, like >>> backing up a lightroom catalog. >>> It's hard to believe that such an important basic feature was missed. > > There's no way internal to the app that I've found. The external way is to > simply use backup software that manages backing up and archiving the > directories that On1 has been told to process as well as the sub-directories > in /Library/Application Software and ~/Library/Application Software that I > mentioned above. > > Basic message: On1 Photo RAW is not a DAM. Lightroom is like a DAM with image > processing capabilities, not a file browser. DAM? > > On1 Photo RAW is an interesting app and has some usefulness, but for the > present I've erased it from my system and am getting work done again with LR > Classic. Next setup that I'm studying use of is Photos enhanced with RAW > Power, as I mentioned before. Meanwhile LR Classic costs me $10 a month… > Until I find the right replacement for LR, that's inexpensive compared to not > getting my photography done. :-) If I could upgrade and not lose the ability to work on things as soon as I stop paying the ransomware I would. It might be worth trying the upgrade and seeing if LR6 could handle the files afterwards. -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List [email protected] http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to UNSUBSCRIBE from the PDML, please visit the link directly above and follow the directions.
