Hi Bill.I received one from, Simon too.

Dave
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From: "Peifer, William [OCDUS]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 13:54:13 -0400 
To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC: "'Simon King [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]'" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: is this person on our list?? �mail problems. �!@#$%^


Hi again Anthony,

I just got one of these autoreplies myself from Simon King, another 
Aussie
on the list. �The text was:
> Thank you for your email.
> I will be off campus on training until Friday 7 June, and will 
respond to
> your message as soon as possible.
> Simon King.

This one was sent directly to me rather than as a post from the PDML
listserver. �I don't expect I'll get another one from him, since: (i) 
he's
probably been auto-unsubscribed, and (ii) his mailserver will 
recognize me
as someone who's already been sent an auto-reply from an earlier 
message.
I've modified the subject line (by adding a string of text "!@#$%^" --
 so
that I'll recognize any other autoreply to this present message, in 
case one
does happen to come.

Typically, most MS Office users don't activate the Out-of-Office 
manager
when they're gone from their offices on nights and weekends. �(I know 
I
don't, although perhaps some do.) �Mostly, they might activate it 
under the
same sorts of circumstances that would cause a PDMLer to temporarily
unsubscribe from the list -- that is, if they went on vacation for a 
week.
Thus, it shouldn't be a surprise that you wouldn't be deluged with 
such
autoreplies.

Have a good one!

Bill Peifer
Rochester, NY

I'll add the following, in case Simon happens to read this on his 
return....
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Hi Simon -- You may need to resubscribe to the list once you return 
to your
office. �IIRC, I think an auto-reply sent to the PDML server may 
cause you
to be unsubscribed. �If you get a chance, send me a note off-list and 
let me
know if the auto-reply caused any havok with your PDML 
subscription. �I'm
just curious.... �Thanks!

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Anthony Farr [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:08 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:      Re: is this person on our list?? �mail problems.
> 
> William,
> 
> Thanks for the explanation. �Sounds logical, and as most of my few 
posts
> occur in the wee hours, then it figures that local members 
subscribed from
> their offices would be the source of my phantom replies. �It makes 
me
> wonder, 'though, why I'm not deluged with them when I post on 
weekends, or
> why I don't get a flood of American "Out of Office AutoReplies" 
when I
> post
> in our daytime (when you're out of your offices).
> 
> It also explains why they never do "get back to me later".
> 
> Regards,
> Anthony Farr
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peifer, William [OCDUS]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> 
> > Anthony Farr wrote:
> > > A few days ago I got an "Out of Office AutoReply" from a 
corporate
> email
> > > address to a message I sent to PDML. �Like you the addressee 
was not
> > > listed in my address book so I don't understand how I could 
even have
> > > accidentally cc'd him.... �[Snip] �Has anyone else had something
> similar
> > > lately?
> >
> > Hi Anthony,
> >
> > I got an MS Outlook out-of-office auto-reply a few days ago as 
well.
> This
> > also happened a few months ago, IIRC. �I believe the problem is 
that
> someone
> > with MS Outlook activates his/her Out-of-Office Manager 
(presumably
> before
> > going on extended leave from the office), and then anyone sending
> him/her
> an
> > e-mail gets an automatic reply, creating havok for any lists to 
which
> he/she
> > subscribes. �If this individual happens to get one -- or several 
dozen
> --
> > e-mails from the PDML server, then his/her mailserver dutifully 
sends
> out
> > one -- or perhaps several dozen -- automatic replies to the PDML 
server.
> > And of course, any posting to the listserver gets forwarded to 
all of us
> > PDMLers.
> >
> > This Out-of-Office Manager is only supposed to auto-reply once to 
any
> given
> > e-mail sender -- that is, if I send this individual ten e-mails, 
only
> the
> > first one will get an auto-reply. �However, I believe that 
Outlook looks
> for
> > the "From" address rather than the "Reply-to" address. �Thus, all
> his/her
> > PDML mail looks like it comes from dozens of different individual
> senders
> > (even though the reply-to address is the same), so dozens of
> auto-replies
> > are sent out (rather than just a single auto-reply to the PDML 
address).
> >
> > I think Doug's got the listserver set up now so that anyone 
sending such
> an
> > autoreply gets auto-unsubscribed, but I'm not sure. �I know that 
when
> this
> > problem happened several months ago (due to some PDMLer 
activating his
> MS
> > Office auto-reply feature), I was getting double the PDML mail 
for the
> > better part of a day. �Each authentic PDML message was 
accompanied by a
> note
> > from this particular PDMLer stating that he was out of the office
> presently,
> > but would respond following his return. �Quite aggravating! �;-)
> >
> > Bill Peifer
> > Rochester, NY
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