I've just got it.
Łukasz

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Peifer, William
[OCDUS]
Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 7:54 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Cc: 'Simon King [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]'
Subject: RE: is this person on our list?? mail problems. !@#$%^


Hi again Anthony,

I just got one of these autoreplies myself from Simon King, another Aussie
on the list.  The text was:
> Thank you for your email.
> I will be off campus on training until Friday 7 June, and will respond to
> your message as soon as possible.
> Simon King.

This one was sent directly to me rather than as a post from the PDML
listserver.  I don't expect I'll get another one from him, since: (i) he's
probably been auto-unsubscribed, and (ii) his mailserver will recognize me
as someone who's already been sent an auto-reply from an earlier message.
I've modified the subject line (by adding a string of text "!@#$%^" -- so
that I'll recognize any other autoreply to this present message, in case one
does happen to come.

Typically, most MS Office users don't activate the Out-of-Office manager
when they're gone from their offices on nights and weekends.  (I know I
don't, although perhaps some do.)  Mostly, they might activate it under the
same sorts of circumstances that would cause a PDMLer to temporarily
unsubscribe from the list -- that is, if they went on vacation for a week.
Thus, it shouldn't be a surprise that you wouldn't be deluged with such
autoreplies.

Have a good one!

Bill Peifer
Rochester, NY

I'll add the following, in case Simon happens to read this on his return....
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Hi Simon -- You may need to resubscribe to the list once you return to your
office.  IIRC, I think an auto-reply sent to the PDML server may cause you
to be unsubscribed.  If you get a chance, send me a note off-list and let me
know if the auto-reply caused any havok with your PDML subscription.  I'm
just curious....  Thanks!

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Anthony Farr [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 1:08 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:      Re: is this person on our list??  mail problems.
>
> William,
>
> Thanks for the explanation.  Sounds logical, and as most of my few posts
> occur in the wee hours, then it figures that local members subscribed from
> their offices would be the source of my phantom replies.  It makes me
> wonder, 'though, why I'm not deluged with them when I post on weekends, or
> why I don't get a flood of American "Out of Office AutoReplies" when I
> post
> in our daytime (when you're out of your offices).
>
> It also explains why they never do "get back to me later".
>
> Regards,
> Anthony Farr
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peifer, William [OCDUS]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
> > Anthony Farr wrote:
> > > A few days ago I got an "Out of Office AutoReply" from a corporate
> email
> > > address to a message I sent to PDML.  Like you the addressee was not
> > > listed in my address book so I don't understand how I could even have
> > > accidentally cc'd him....  [Snip]  Has anyone else had something
> similar
> > > lately?
> >
> > Hi Anthony,
> >
> > I got an MS Outlook out-of-office auto-reply a few days ago as well.
> This
> > also happened a few months ago, IIRC.  I believe the problem is that
> someone
> > with MS Outlook activates his/her Out-of-Office Manager (presumably
> before
> > going on extended leave from the office), and then anyone sending
> him/her
> an
> > e-mail gets an automatic reply, creating havok for any lists to which
> he/she
> > subscribes.  If this individual happens to get one -- or several dozen
> --
> > e-mails from the PDML server, then his/her mailserver dutifully sends
> out
> > one -- or perhaps several dozen -- automatic replies to the PDML server.
> > And of course, any posting to the listserver gets forwarded to all of us
> > PDMLers.
> >
> > This Out-of-Office Manager is only supposed to auto-reply once to any
> given
> > e-mail sender -- that is, if I send this individual ten e-mails, only
> the
> > first one will get an auto-reply.  However, I believe that Outlook looks
> for
> > the "From" address rather than the "Reply-to" address.  Thus, all
> his/her
> > PDML mail looks like it comes from dozens of different individual
> senders
> > (even though the reply-to address is the same), so dozens of
> auto-replies
> > are sent out (rather than just a single auto-reply to the PDML address).
> >
> > I think Doug's got the listserver set up now so that anyone sending such
> an
> > autoreply gets auto-unsubscribed, but I'm not sure.  I know that when
> this
> > problem happened several months ago (due to some PDMLer activating his
> MS
> > Office auto-reply feature), I was getting double the PDML mail for the
> > better part of a day.  Each authentic PDML message was accompanied by a
> note
> > from this particular PDMLer stating that he was out of the office
> presently,
> > but would respond following his return.  Quite aggravating!  ;-)
> >
> > Bill Peifer
> > Rochester, NY
> > -
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