Might be the film too.I have looked at the shots again
and the Optima II seem less harsh,smoother,than the 
Portra 400vc.There was also more wind and dust when shooting
the 160vc.May be part of the problem.I checked Shels
film comparison page and the Optima II is listed as Med to 
High for Contrast.
Hummmmm,maybe i'll try some of it on the HHH days and 
see.

Dave
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i use a 3.0 regularly. waterfall shots in bright sun.

Herb...
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