Hi, 

On 22 Jul 2002 at 19:07, Chris Niesmertelny wrote:
> No, it's not a test between the two.  I've essentially whittled down my
> collection to 6 cameras, on the Pentax side the LX, ZX-5n, and an SV
> screwmount (additionally, a Chinon CE-4), and a Bessa R and L.

Only 6 cameras? ;-)

I have the Pentax LX, K2, SuperA, MX and SFXn (3 of them should be 
enough), a Kiev88, a Certo Six, a Kiev 4 (Contax III) set, a Revue 400SE, a 
Ricoh 500GX (note that the latter 4 are RFs); and an Espio 928 and a Canon 
Pima Mini II as "family cameras".

> I'd be interested in knowing if any of you in the PDML have a similar set up
> and how you feel about using your equipment.  

If we consider only the Pentax and Kiev4 part, the setup is similar.

> I have to say, and I don't
> want to sound sacriligious, but my CV equipment has been used far more
> regularly (save for a recent vacation to Nova Scotia - only Pentax equipment
> used).

Most of the time I carry only one of my major systems, and possibly one 
additional camera in addition. On my recent vacation (Monte Bianco (Italian 
side) and Cote 'd Azur (France)) I carried an LX based Pentax setup loaded 
with slides and the Certo Six with BW for some landscapes.

The SLR and RF work is so different to me, that I cannot combine them 
effectively. There are SLR days and RF days. (The Certo is set to infinity 
most of the time.)

> One area where there is, from my perspective, more opportunity for the
> Voigtlander is in people photography.

I agree. My main reason to have the Kiev4 is the Sonnar 2/85 and the 
portraits it makes.

> the ZX-5n which I brought to a street fair a month or so ago and people
> where actually running to get out of view.  

A black MX with a small lens (M series 2/35, 1.4/50, 2/85, 2.8/100, ...) 
doesn't seem to have this effect. I don't know why, but a chrome body acts 
definitely worse at this.

> I've been very impressed with the glass on the CV, owning the very nice 35mm
> f2.5 Classic, the great (TINY!) little 15mm and the 25mm I bought with the
> Bessa L.  I use a Russian 50mm that serves it's purpose, and a Russian 85mm
> that is more than serviceable.

My RF lenses are a 2.8/35, a 2/50, a 2/85 and a 4/135. The 85 is an original 
Sonnar, the others are original russian copies. ;-) 
I like them all, great optics. The 35 is a bit hard to use at it isn't a retrofocus 
design. 

I'd like to add an extra wide (21mm?) as well, but unfortunately these are 
extremely rare and expensive for this system.

This camera has the built-in finder framed only for 50mm, so I have to use an 
accessory finder for the other FLs. It's a so called "turret finder", with 5 focal 
lengths and parallax correction capability. 
A bit tricky to learn, but works very well if one is used to it.
Also, it makes the camera that weird, that people forget to pose or 
complain...
 
>The LX meter is something beyond the capabilities of most
> cameras ever made, but then I don't use the Bessas in the same way, when
> critical exposures are necessary.

I use an external meter (Svedlovsk 4) for the Kiev4. The built-in selenium one 
is more of a decoration than a reliable instrument.

> I guess for me I've found the perfect companion set up to the LX etc.  Both
> kits seem to complement each other, and there's sometimes clearly a "Bessa"
> opportunity and a "Pentax" opportunity.

Agreed.


Gabor
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