Pal Wrote:

"The Z-series was direct reason as to why Pentax dissapeared from the slr
map."

I agree.� When the PZ-1/Z-1 came out, I didn't like it at all.� Plus
their AF line was not complete either.� The PZ1p/Z1p was a great
improvement in many respects (analog scale in view finder, flash exp
comp, mirror lock), but then this camera had some short comings as well
which were addresed in the MZ-S.

Owning a Z1p and now an MZ-S, I use my MZ-S 95% of the time.� However, it
took a bit of time to get used to the MZ-S.� It's a great performer, and
it's rugged and light.

I don't care for new flagship as much as I would some more FA* lenses:
20-35mm f3.5, 400 mm f4, a 300mm f4.5 WITH a tripod camera to name a few.

The lenses are what matter the most right?

Cliff

P.S.� I don't use use Nikon because they don't put mirror lock-ups on any
AF slr except the F5.

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>From: P�l Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re:
R.I.P. Z-1p >Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 00:15:37 +0200 > >Artur wrote: > > >
> It's amasing how easily Z-1p has fallen from the very top to the very >
> bottom... > > >Actually, the Z-1 and the whole Z-series has been
controversial since this forum started. >The Z-series was direct reason
as to why Pentax dissapeared from the slr map. It's predecessor, the SFX,
sold well in fact. The F-series of lenses sold in 2-3 years time the same
amount as the FA series need almost 10 years to achieve reflecting camera
sales. Pentax slr sales flopped with the Z-series. To me it's no wonder.
In the early 90's the big switch to AF occured. Nikon didn't have USM and
VR by then. However, with a Pentax camera series that from the
specification sheet had identical specifications as other slr line-ups
(Nikon, Minolta, Canon), paired with forgettable looks, not single users
switched to Pentax because everything could be had elsewere. The Pentax
users who wanted AF found out that if they wanted the AF to actually work
they needed new lenses anyway. And Pentax didn't have many AF lenses at
that point. Since a Pentax didn't seem much different from a Nikon or a
Canon, and you needed new lenses anyway, why buy Pentax again? The
remaining Pentax user base! >, which by now consisted mostly of the
conservative users (as the rest had mostly dissappeared), felt aliented
by the plastic blobs of the Z-series and hence were reluctant to buy into
them. A significant numbers of those who actually gave in and eventually
bought the Z-1p were dissapointed. >THis has really nothing to with how
great or nice Z-1p is. It simply dissapeared in the marketplace and I
doubt any amount of marketing could have save it. > >Now the Z-1p is
simply and old, outdated camera. I cannot but noticed that those who slam
the MZ-S are those who read (parts) of the specification sheet. But have
you actually used one together with a Z-1p? I have side by side and
there's simply no camparison. The MZ-S is a much better beforming camera
in any way. In spite of 2.5fps rate you get more keepers because the AF
can actually cope. Nor do you have to focus and recompose like on the one
AF point on the Z-1p, something impossible with true action. Not only do
the mZ-S feel much better; it feels much smoother, almost like comparing
a luxury car to crude truck. As far as I can remeber, everyone on this
forum who has actually replaced or the added the MZ-S to their Z-1p
prefer the former. > > >P�l >- >This message is from the Pentax-Discuss
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