On Wed, 11 Sep 2002, tom wrote:
> Good strategy my man, I employed it quite a bit myself when I was
> married.

Oh, it'll be even harder when I get married, right now she's just watching
how I spend money on "junk" instead of bills.

Frankly, I need that sort of approach, which is why I don't complain, but
it sure is no fun.

> Huh? Is this the lens sold with the MEF? Soft is good for portraits
> (according to some), not candids....

This it is, yes.

I've used it in the past and never noticed it being unbearably soft, but I
figured in a situation that I'm envisioning (I'm being asked to take
candid photos of guests at a reception, there is no ceremony, it was held
overseas) that any softness it may have wouldn't be a drawback.

> Unlikely. Receptions are usually dark, and if you're not using flash
> you'll be lucky to get decent exposure wide-open.
> Is this thing going to be outside during daylight?

Outdoors, but not until later in the evening.. I figure I'll have waning
hours of daylight. I think they also would like me to take a few photos of
bride and groom (well, husband and wife, now) somewhere ahead of time, as
well.

> 70mm is long enough, you just need to brave enough to get up close to
> people. 135mm isn't really long enough to be all that sneaky, though
> it gives good compression if you want it.

I've noticed that many of my nicer photos of people tend to be profiles
from furhter away, its what I gravitate to because I think I can take
decent photograph of someone in that situation better than head on.. Then
again, its not my film or processing costs, so who knows how adventurous
I'll become. :)

> About 90% of my reception shots are done with a 28-70/2.8. I do
> sometimes sneak the 200mm out (the 135 disappeared), but generally
> it's just for a few headshots of close family and friends. Honestly,
> those shots are kind of boring - I much prefer to go wide and get
> close:

I actually like those shots, so perhaps I can attempt to get some of that
nature, as well. However, I don't really have any good, faster, wide
angles.. hey, this seems like an opportune time to sneak one of those in,
too. I was giving serious thought to either a 24 or 28 at 2.8 or quicker.

(I admit I'm not really activly pursuing any one given lens, either now or
overall.. OK, its a pretty bad strategy to take, but I'd rahter not get
hung up on mindless details, plus, with no net connection outside of work,
its a bit tough to really hunt!)

> Those were from my first reception using the 200.

I have to say that I think I would prefer to attempt to get more of a
feeling akin to your wides...

> One thing to watch out for when using a flash on a bracket....you can
> get too close and black out the eye-sockets:
> In this pic the flash is basically hanging over her head and I should
> have backed out to 35mm instead of 28.

This is one of ht emany reasons why I'm not going to run out and buy a
flash.. I wouldn't have the slightest clue on how to properly, and
effectily, use it without annihilating any detail. Fill flash? Yeah, I
know WHAT it is, but now HOW it is.. y'know?

> Also, if you have no flash, shorter lenses allow you to handhold at
> shorter shutter speeds. The longest lens I use for available light at
> receptions is the 85/1.4 (this is the lens you really want). I can't

This is one of the lenses I want, but I don't think I could afford it, nor
really justify it as I find myself steering away from 35mm in my casual
shooting (and I have no desire to pursue any sort of
portrait/wedding/formals career).

> rememeber ever shooting the 135 at a reception without a flash.
> Certainly not the 200. Ceremonies yes, receptions no.

Supposedly this is a laid back affair, and I've already made it abundantly
clear that I can't take posed, formal pictures.

> If I were in your shoes I'd get a flash.

With a week and a half to go, I'd never get it down. Besides, I'd rarely
use it when I haul the cameras out for fun, so I won't buy one until I
feel I'd use it.

I'm an available light junky.

Thanks to EVERYONE for your input, I'd meant to respond to many of the
posts, but I have to.. I've just been digesting the information.

-G.

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