Not sure about the camera "thinking" it's empty.
With the Z-1, you have to pull the film lip well to the right of 
the shutter window before the camera tries to wind it on.
OTOH, I have a suspicion that this might also have something to do 
with the ISO recognition system...

Now you got me curious. Got to check out a few things with the Z-1 
when I get home from work.

Jostein


---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Rob Brigham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 11:19:06 +0100

>Actually, you are right although I do still wonder.  The 'dry-
firing' I
>should have thought of is a good point, but will a camera 'dry-
fire'
>with a film canister inside the camera?  Surely it would try to 
load a
>film and when unable to do so, signal an error?  This could be 
the key -
>how does the efilm make the camera think it is empty?  Also, it 
would
>then only work with cameras that had manual ISO setting?  How 
many entry
>models does this count out (not that I am worried).  Frame 
counting is
>not really an issue when you can zap old frames and they are all
>different sizes - only memory usage left.
.

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