Not sure about the camera "thinking" it's empty. With the Z-1, you have to pull the film lip well to the right of the shutter window before the camera tries to wind it on. OTOH, I have a suspicion that this might also have something to do with the ISO recognition system...
Now you got me curious. Got to check out a few things with the Z-1 when I get home from work. Jostein ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Rob Brigham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 11:19:06 +0100 >Actually, you are right although I do still wonder. The 'dry- firing' I >should have thought of is a good point, but will a camera 'dry- fire' >with a film canister inside the camera? Surely it would try to load a >film and when unable to do so, signal an error? This could be the key - >how does the efilm make the camera think it is empty? Also, it would >then only work with cameras that had manual ISO setting? How many entry >models does this count out (not that I am worried). Frame counting is >not really an issue when you can zap old frames and they are all >different sizes - only memory usage left. .

