I have read that the Kodak is more neutral in terms of colouration which
generally helps when printing on colour paper.  I have had just as many
problems with this as with the Olford though, and I prefer the Ilford
for portraits, which is what I tend to use B&W for.  The Kodak seems to
have a higher contrast and more dramatic effect, whereas the Ilford is
more 'creamy'.  I absolutely love the Ilford.

You should bear in mind though, that many processors will automatically
assume you want it printed sepia - hey why else would you use black and
whitre, eh?  Ideally you want it printed on true B&W paper, but failing
that I would recommend giving the printer an example of the sort of
colouration you want - and stress NOT SEPIA!!!

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Feroze Kistan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: 29 September 2002 22:44
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: C41 B & W film
> 
> 
> Has anyone used the Illford or Kodak B & W film that can be 
> processed by C41. I want to try B & W photography but am 
> clueless as to the in & outs of the processing part. Don't 
> have any darkroom equipment either.
> 
> Has anyone hand coloured B & W prints and which is the better 
> papers to have it printed on. I dont have any oils as yet and 
> will be using the Derwent pencils from my art school days, 
> would this work. I will seal it after I'm done.
> 
> 

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