> For now, I might sit things out and rely on my LX. When the dust settles a > bit and we all know what Pentax are doing then I may decide to purchase a > new camera. It will be either the z-1p or the new film flagship (I will be > purchasing a DSLR regardless, unless it is really crappy). The only way I > will purchase the film flagship over a z-1p is if it makes me feel > comfortable enough to let go of my LX (relax only joking folks).
And I was just about to ask you for a price on the LX ;-) I think it is a smart choice to wait since you have what you need now. Will I get stoned to death if I say the MZ-S is better than the LX? I am wondering about this new film flagship. Doesn't quite fit. A nice non-MZ body? Perhaps. If, as everyone says, I'm completely wrong, the MZ-S is a hit as a flagship, so why develop one completely different when the world is going digital? I would hope they scrap the film and put more into the digital. Why? Well, they have a nice film camera already that has sent Pentax from rags to richs. They don't have a DSLR. Geez....Sigma has one. I looked at the newest Optio a few days ago, went through the menus, tried this and that. I wasn't impressed. Yes, it was better than mine, had more features, but it still seems just sorta...bad. I like my Optio 230, it's a cheap camera I take for things I wouldn't want to pay for development and won't care if I break it or whatever. If they are still using the same sort of technology, they may be in some trouble. Even the best Optio isn't *that* good. And if all ya say is true about Pentax not being a techno company, well, digital by nature is all techno,no?, yes?. I have a feeling that either you won't see one for a long time, or you will and will be disappointed. But, let's hope they do what I said above...."I would hope they scrap the film and put more into the digital. Why? Well, they have a nice film camera already that has sent Pentax from rags to richs. They don't have a DSLR." If they listen to me (and they should heh :)) you may get a really nice digital SLR. Time will tell at any rate.... Brad Dobo > cheers > > Shaun Canning > PhD Student > Archaeology Department > La Trobe University, Bundoora, > Australia, 3086. > > e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Phone: 0414-967 644 > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Coyle [mailto:jcoyle@;powerup.com.au] > Sent: Thursday, 31 October 2002 10:55 > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: RE: MZ-S vs Z-1p > > Hi Shaun: > Would you believe I am still on my first set of batteries for the MZ-S, > after nearly a year? I can't recall how many films I have put through, > but it's a fair few. I have played extensively with the flash and > tested the autofocus assist, and it gets to go out with me every day, > when I have it switched on 'just in case'. > Along with a couple of others who have complained that it chews > batteries, maybe you should have it checked for battery drain when > switched off, or even check that you are not accidentally leaving it on > all the time? > > If the forecast DSLR is indeed built on the same basic chassis as the > MZ-S, I would expect all the accessories to fit, as there would be > little point in changing the mechanics of the fit: IMHO, the change > between the original MZ-fit accessories and the MZ-S set was to > accommodate additional control information, and that is now > accomplished. > If, on the other hand, you want to wait for the film flagship, all bets > are off! Since Pentax are reported to have said it will be based on a > completely new chassis, I don't think we have any way of knowing how it > will be put together, and therefore whether anything (except hopefully, > our glass) will fit it. > > John Coyle > Brisbane, Australia > > > On Thursday, October 31, 2002 9:22 AM, Shaun Canning > [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote: > > Thanks for the first replies everyone. The catch-22 for me is if it > is > > going > > to be worth changing over to an MZ-S now (and need a new cable > release > > and > > flash etc to get it all to work properly) or wait until the fabled > > DSLR or > > new film flagship arrives? If I buy an MZ-S there is no guarantee > that > > the > > extras will be universal (i.e. the cable release and flash). We still > > haven't really heard anything about the film flagship. Everyone seems > > hell > > bent on the DSLR. What's happening Pal? Have you heard anymore about > > the > > film flagship? Of course, it could be worse. At least I can get the > > parts I > > want for my camera's, hey Brad? > > > > I am 'stuck' with an LX only at the moment, which I must say is not > > really > > that much of a tragedy (I love my LX). However, I do have a genuine > > need for > > flash bracketing, flash exposure compensation and AF. The z-1p is a > > great > > camera, except for those stupid damned 2CR5 batteries that seem to > > evaporate > > when they are taken out of the packet. From what has been on the list > > lately > > though, it seems that the MZ-S chews up the batteries as well. > > > > Hmmm.... the dilemmas of being a Pentaxian. > > > > Will they...wont they...wish they did.... > > > > Shaun Canning > > PhD Student > > Archaeology Department > > La Trobe University, Bundoora, > > Australia, 3086. > > > > e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Phone: 0414-967 644 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Paul Jones [mailto:pdml@;nrg666.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, 30 October 2002 04:47 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: MZ-S vs Z-1p > > > > Hi, > > > > I've had both and the MZ-S hunts alot less, in both well lit and low > > light > > situations. > > > > I only ever used the central sensor on the MZ-S. > > > > Regards, > > Paul Jones > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Shaun Canning" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Wednesday, October 30, 2002 4:41 PM > > Subject: RE: MZ-S vs Z-1p > > > > > > > Thanks Bruce > > > > > > Shaun Canning > > > PhD Student > > > Archaeology Department > > > La Trobe University, Bundoora, > > > Australia, 3086. > > > > > > e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Phone: 0414-967 644 > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Bruce Dayton [mailto:bkdayton@;rcsis.com] > > > Sent: Wednesday, 30 October 2002 03:56 > > > To: Shaun Canning > > > Subject: Re: MZ-S vs Z-1p > > > > > > Shaun, > > > > > > I used to own 2 PZ-1p's and sold them for 2 MZ-S's. There are > > > three > > > aspects to the AF to consider: > > > > > > 1) AF Speed. Part of this is the > > > power of the motor and part the algorithms used to achieve final > > > focus. The MZ-S seems to me to achieve final focus slightly > > > quicker > > > and with less hunting that the PZ-1p - although the PZ-1p motor is > > > quite powerful and is no slouch at all. > > > > > > 2) Low light sensitivity - Here I have found the MZ-S to be > > > noticeably > > > better than the PZ-1p. > > > > > > 3) Multiple sensors - Obviously, since the PZ-1p only has one > > > central > > > sensor, the MZ-S does a better job here. > > > > > > Remember that these are quite different cameras in handling and > > > interface. If you really liked the interface of the PZ-1 you might > > > prefer a PZ-1p. The MZ-S is a bit more traditional in interface. > > > > > > Given the opportunity to choose between the two again, I would > > > choose > > > the MZ-S again. The P-TTL, high speed and wireless flash system is > > > clearly superior to the PZ-1p and I find that feature more > > > important > > > than AF. I shot a wedding over the weekend. Along with heavy use > > > of > > > the P67II, I used the wireless flash capability of the MZ-S for > > > quite > > > a few shots - all manual focus with the FA*85/1.4 and FA 35/2. > > > > > > In defense of the PZ-1p, it has faster FPS, and one handed > > > operation > > > with the spin dials. Truly a great robocamera design. > > > > > > If I can be of any other help, please don't hesitate to ask. > > > > > > > > > Bruce > > > > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, October 29, 2002, 8:31:39 PM, you wrote: > > > > > > SC> Can anyone who has owned both these cameras tell me how much > > > effective > > > SC> difference there is in the AF speed between the SAFOX II system > > > of the > > > SC> z/pz-1p and the SFOX VII of the MZ-S? The z-1 I owned until > > > recently > > was > > > SC> pretty good with all of my AF lenses, other than a Tokina > 80-200 > > > > > > ATX-Pro, > > > SC> which was sometimes a bit slow. I am interested in upgrading my > > > film > > > SLR, > > > SC> and can't choose between the MZ-S or a second hand Z-1p. Then > > > again, I > > > may > > > SC> just wait for the DSLR if we ever get to see what the damn > > > thing > > really > > > SC> looks like and goes like..... > > > > > > SC> Shaun Canning > > > SC> PhD Student > > > SC> Archaeology Department > > > SC> La Trobe University, Bundoora, > > > SC> Australia, 3086. > > > > > > SC> e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > SC> Phone: 0414-967 644 > > > >
