----- Original Message -----
From: Chris Brogden Subject: Re: Re[2]: Why I won't be buying an
MZ-S


>
> ISO override and exp. comp. do the same thing, regardless of
which shows
> up in the viewfinder.  You argue that it's a good idea to have
both of
> these different ways of shifting exposure because some people
will use
> either one or the other depending on their preferences.  I'm
saying that
> it's the same idea behind having two different ways of
selecting aperture.
> Both add unnecessary functionality the the camera, if you look
at it that
> way, so you seem to be contradicting yourself.

No contradiction.
Setting the ISO is a global function (IE: I shoot this film type
at this speed).
Exposure compensation is scene dependent (I shoot sunsets at
+1.5 stops).

Setting the aperture with a conrol on the body, or on the lens
is still just setting the aperture.
I understand Bruce's strategy about supporting long lenses
handheld and the like, but MZ-30 users are not in that
demographic of camera user.

>
> Have you used a Z1-p?  You do *not* have to shut one off to
use the other.
> That's what I've been saying.  When you use one, the other is
> automatically disabled from being able to select aperture.
It's
> automatic.

Go up two paragraphs Chris. What you said was "you can only use
one at a time"
> >
> > Pardon me? There is an extra control.
> > The flippin control dial that you think is so grand is the
extra
> > control.
>
> Wrong.  The same wheel that you select aperture on the body
with is
> necessary to control many more of the camera's functions.  If
you removed
> aperture control from the wheel's list of functions, it would
still be
> necessary to have it to use the camera.

Since the wheel controls multiple functions, it must have one or
more buttons telling it what to control.
Consequently, the user of the camera finds himself in menuland
when he wants to make the camera do something it isn't
configured to do.
This is not making the process of photography any easier for the
user.

William Robb

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