On Tuesday 11 May 2004 9:54 am, John Hampton wrote:
> Carla Schroder wrote:
> <snip>
> > 
> > Hmm. Yeah, you're right. I'm not crazy about using a display manager, 
because 
> > they get in my way, and don't provide a way to log out of X to the 
console. 
> > Maybe scripting something using xinit would be a cleaner way to begin.
> 
> Have fun scripting a better startx. I'm afraid that I won't be too much 
> help there. �However, I'm not sure I entirely understand your complaint 
> with a login manager (which I assume you're referring to, ie, xdm or 
> gdm, etc.). �I realize that generally they start at boot and when you 
> log out of your X session then it takes you back to the login manager. 
> However, I've always bee able to get to a real console via 
> ctrl-alt-f[1-6]. �Once there, if you really don't want the login manager 
> to run, you can always stop the service. �In gentoo, all you do is 
> /etc/init.d/xdm stop.

'/etc/init.d/xdm stop' works on most systems. I do a lot of work in the 
console, and when I'm testing things that require a lot of reboots, waiting 
for the display manager to load gets old.  For me it's more convenient to 
boot to a text console, then start X sessions when I want them. And I want to 
be able to choose whatever darn WM I want on a whim- after all, aren't choice 
and customizability the gawd-given rights of every Linux user?  :)

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