Theo blew something like a half-million dollars in support by
offending DARPA. He offends everyone. So does Marc.
Force of personality isn't "cool" in my book. It reminds me of when
I was in my 20's and thought I new everything. Which is now just
embarrassing to remember.
The general sense I'm getting from you is that you like Ruby and
Rails because you perceive it as Punk Rock and anti-establishment -
which from reading DHH's posts is exactly why he likes it too.
Let me clue you guys in on the Java side - nobody uses J2EE who knows
how to be productive. We keep it light and simple, Test First,
Spring, Hibernate, Unit Tests, MVC, POM (maven: project object models
- read: convention), Hibernate - all light weight APIs and
methodologies.
So if you were to lay J2EE with no libraries along side RoR, you'd
have a boost over Java. If you were to test yourself against a
seasoned light-weight Java dev who knew the right tools, you wouldn't
be so lucky.
On Apr 21, 2006, at 4:54 PM, Lennon Day-Reynolds wrote:
On 4/21/06, Tim Dysinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Wow. To me that sounds like something out of the asinine elitist
mouth of Theo De Ratt or Marc Fleury.
Of course, both of them have built successful open source communities
around their projects in part by simple force of personality as much
as any inherent technological savvy or advantage. There's something to
be said for simply staying in people's faces until they're forced to
talk on your terms.
<snark>
Plus, rock stars can't ever be polite, or they cease to be cool and
become simply popular. You can't be "indie" unless you exude a sort of
general disdain for the "square" (a.k.a. "business", a.k.a.
"enterprise") world.
</snark>
-Lennon
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