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From: "Mike Reagan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 5:21 PM
Subject: RE: [PEDA] how to merge three PCB to one


Don

As Jun mentioned you have to use the paste special.  I have used it on
multilayer designs.

Mike Reagan
EDSI Frederick MD

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Don
Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2004 5:12 PM
To: Protel EDA Discussion List
Subject: Re: [PEDA] how to merge three PCB to one


The cut & 'paste special' method works well with 2 layers but seemed to
stumble with connectivity on the inner planes on 4 layers.  Or did I
just flub something...  Otherwise this means much more use of camtastic
as our fab has a great deal on multi-layer if you supply work as a panel
that they don't have to mess with (much).

Cheers

Don


Dennis Saputelli wrote:
> this comes up all the time
>
> we use your method #1 almost every day with no troubles
>
> using this method you also get full DRC checking as well
> whereas if you use the paste special method you do not
>
> don't forget that not only is pcb cost lower but overall
> handling and assembly costs are lower (assuming the boards are used as a
> 'set' which is what we do)
>
> something you have to think about however is how you are going to
> singulate the boards
> as you get into tab routing, mouse bites and other features which may
> not otherwise be needed you start to erode a bit of the benefit
>
> we have been scoring some of these things lately
> before you say it is crummy method please realize that scoring has come
> a long way in the last decade just like the rest of pcb fab tech
>
> they can now do jump (or skip) scoring, hold accuracy to maybe 10 thou
> and other stuff
> for todays NC scoring machines due to FR4 fringing leave 20 thou (mils)
> min between the score line and the edge of an outer trace or Cu
>
> 40 is probably a smarter choice so that is one down side to scoring
>
> nominal score depth s.b. 1/3 T from each side
>
> this varies with how big a piece you have to grab though (leverage)
> narrow breakoffs need to be scored deeper
> very heavy big bds with a score in the middle may be scored less deeply
>
> also there are stresses to consider during the singulation whatever
> method is used
>
> if the board has slots or routing operations anyway then maybe drop a
> few obrounds in the scored areas to reduce the stresses of the
> singulation process
>
> also the edges will not be extacly pristine but may be suitable for many
> purposes and don't have to be cleaned up like the tab & mouse bite routine
>
> Dennis Saputelli
>
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> é wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> I have three small PCB and I want to merge them to one PCB in order to
>> decrease the cost. I am thinking about two method as following but
>> either has demerit. Could you please give me some advice?
>>
>> (1) Design the three PCB in one project. But the designator name
>> cannot repeat so I must name the parts of the1st PCB from "U1" to "U5"
>> then the 2nd PCB from U6 to U10 (for example) and so on.
>>
>> (2) Design the three PCB in three projects. But when I output the
>> three gerber data files I cannot merge them into one gerber data file.
>>
>> Thank you for any advice.
>>
>>
>>
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