Joe

I would be interested in hearing how you find the comparison between PADs
and Protel, be it 99SE or 2004.  I have yet to see a really good unbiased
comparison - with backing - of the various packages out there.

I keep hoping to see a really good in-depth article in a rag that actually
*builds* a medium-complexity board, start to finish, in each of the
packages.  Schematics, multi-page, component creation, management, the
works.

That would be a huge job, I know, and very difficult to do without bias.  I
suppose one way would be to have the author(s) not actually do the work, but
sit in very, very closely, with experts for each package.  What I would want
to see is both the highlights of what a package can do really well, as well
as what it *can't* do very well.  Plus workarounds.

-- 
Dean Carpenter
deano at areyes com
94TT :)
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Joe Sapienza" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Protel EDA Discussion List"
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Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: [PEDA] To print PCB in scale 1:1


> "Eats too many trees"
>
>
> You're just too funny
>
> Sorry I'm in this huge PADS job and feel like I'm in hell sans the online
> DRC so I need all the good humor I can get
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mike Reagan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'Protel EDA Discussion List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 11:33 AM
> Subject: RE: [PEDA] To print PCB in scale 1:1
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>
>
> Export to gerber , use Camtastik to print.  It has great control features
> for printing.   I never use Protel to print anything including the text
> reports.  It has to many driver problems and not good enough control.
Eats
> too many trees
>
> Mike Reagan
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jun Gong
> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 10:28 AM
> To: Protel EDA Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [PEDA] To print PCB in scale 1:1
>
>
> Printing PCB in strict 1:1 scale is not a easy job. Though you could
specify
> 1:1 print scale in Protel, the output may still real 1:1. And even you got
a
> 1:1 output on one printer, you may not get a 1:1 print on aother printer.
>
> The way I did is make a two round print.  Following are the steps:
>
> 1) Draw  2 lines on a bland PCB file, one on X , one on Y direction.
Suppose
> both of their length are 2 inches.
> 2) Print the PCB with 1:1 scale in Protel print option.
> 3)Measure the length of lines on the paper output.
> 4) If the line length of output is not 2 inches, calculate the adjustment
> ratio, and enter it into Protel's X scale and Y scale.
> 5) You could re-do step 2 to 4 to verify it is trule 1:1 on both X, Y
> direction.
> 6) Print the final true 1:1 PCB output.
>
> Regards.
>
> Jun gong
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "é" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Protel EDA Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 6:11 AM
> Subject: [PEDA] To print PCB in scale 1:1
>
>
> > Hello, everyone,
> >
> > With your kind help I have completed the PCB of my BGA board. Thank you
> very
> > much.
> > To check the footprint created by myself before manufacturing, I hope to
> > print my PCB in scale 1:1. But cannot get the correct result. The size
of
> > output PCB always varies with the paper size I selected. I thought there
> > must be some option to set but I could not find it. Could you please
give
> me
> > advice?
> >
> > Thank you very much.
> >
> > Xiangchen
> >
> >
> >
> >
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