i have never had a DDB become corrupted or lost data due to DDB issues (knock on wood here...)
revision controls are easy with the DDB
at the next rev spin we just shuffle copies of everything into an 'OLDER' folder and right there in one container we have all the revs for side by side comparision, no muss no fuss
the integrated library thing seems of minimal use to me
since i have *never* done a project in which i was not
constantly making and tweaking both new footprints and schem symbols
on the fly during the drawing of both the schematic and during placement of parts on the pcb
i think i'll wait till SP6 :)
Dennis Saputelli
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Jason Morgan wrote:
Hi,
I'm not surprised you don't have SP2 loaded, if you did you would not be talking about it publicly as you would be under NDA!! You would be advised to have SP1 loaded though.
If your only hurdle to P2004 is the query language, then I suggest you just get used to it.
P2004 is 1000% better than 99se. In the words of my very picky colleague here "At last, Protel is just about usable" when talking of P2004 SP1.
Not moving because you are scared of the query language is a bit like being scared of the dark as a child, its just an unknown and not that bad really.
There are more improvements than I can list, but I'll have a go.
Integration of Schematic, PCB, Libraries, CAM PCB Editing - lots of improvements PCB routing - automatic fan out, situs is getting better Schematic - lots of improvements Multiple Channels - turns one of our 99se designs at 60+ pages into 12 pages under DXP .ddb is dead - move to DXP for this alone (too many corrupted .ddb loose lots of data too often) Integration with revision control - EXCELLENT (and impossible with .ddb)!! Query language, you can do things here that would have been impossible in 99se Global editing - in 99se is was downright dangerous. Project management Multiple Projects Better File Management Database links (99se database links were so slow they are useless)
Some things are still coming along.... slowly 3D View and mechanical cad interchange (so slowly, I use 3DView by QualECAD - its still better)
And there are some things are (for me) are completely useless FPGA
There are some really nice features coming up too....;) If I weren't under NDA I could list one or two that would benefit your work directly.
Sadly, even in SP1 there are still features missing that we've all been waiting for a LONG time. Flexible Busses Pin & Gate swapping Channels of channels
All this from a long term user of Protel and a person who has been most critical of Protel over the years.
regs, jason.
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of samuel cox Sent: 18 November 2004 19:40 To: Protel EDA Discussion List Subject: [PEDA] 99se vs. DXP vs. 2004.. Need a sample of feelings aboutdiff. and reasons for moving or not to the next
Hello.. We are currently experts using 99se.. we have DXP and recently received 2004.. We use AMD systems with XP pro.. and do not have sp2 loaded.. Our designs are relatively simple Backplanes. VME, cPCI, ATCA, VITA, etc.
But we do have to support / convert old Pcad dsgns 5.1 into Protel.. We appreciate the ddb format for file management in 99se.. and the global editing...
However we are not excited about the query language for selection in 2004..
Any advice about the pros.. and cons about moving forward to DXP and or 2004
would greatly be appreciated.. Thanks..
Samuel C. Cox Jr.
PCB Design Manager Dawnvme Products
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Samuel C. Cox Jr.
6902 Serenity Court
San Jose, California 95120
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