> I hope things have changed (I did my tech work 15 years ago now lol (I
 > feel old at 30)) maybe I will find out if the business ever slows enough
 > to think about taking time out for formal study ;)
The concern with not having a BEng is getting insurance in the future, year by year the no. of companies doing the Liability / Indemnity trade gets smaller & far more expensive.


You feel old at 30? I'm 41, and the only time I feel old is when I think about how the future isn't what it used to be when I was a kid. We were supposed to have unlimited clean energy, bases on the moon, and human-level AI computers by now.

I agree. One of the sadder things about getting older (45) is seeing how few of the things that have actually come to pass. Reliable operating systems, widespread green energy, supersonic passenger flight, peace, stability in Africa.

For the aussies on the list I found the great wake up call was a locally made move called "The Dish". Arguably one of the best Australian movies ever made. I watched the little kid sitting at home watching Armstrong stepping onto the lunar surface for the first time. I was a similar age and recall sitting at school watching an old B&W TV. At that point in time we were so convinced as a nation that we could do anything & were hell bent on doing so.

My thoughts at the end of the movie were more about how we have seemed to have lost our way somewhat in the following 30 years. Little did we suspect that the place would be dictated by corporations obsessed with economic rationalism and a mad religious fundamentalist ( that's george not osama... ) Everyone had a big sigh after Viet Nam but obviously had a big lapse of memory more recently, now we get to pay for it.

Instead, we are fighting wars born of
ancient religious hatred, building more coal-fired power plants,
Next 20 years of 'green energy' funding locally is tied up with "clean-burn coal" and finding ways of trying to hide CO2 in the earth. Too bad if you want to look at bio-energy or solar or wind etc...

pulling
fabric off of 30-year old spacecraft, and struggling with computer tech that is thousands of times more powerful but still dumb as a rock.

I found it amusing in a sad way that it took the market leader 11 years (Win95) to get their PC to a point where it could perform as well as a 1984 Amiga. A truth gained with age & a few scars, engineering specs mean bugger all, it's driven by marketing, public perception/gullibility and politics.

Well, that and also being unable to fathom the appeal of some current trends (reality tv, text messaging, etc.). Otherwise, I might as well still be 25, in my mind.

Consumer electronics has more in common with the fashion industry than 
engineering.

If the above rant seems US-centric, it is, because that's where I am.

As for formal study, if you think you want to stay in the EE field, you should consider a formal degree. I am glad I got my EE degree. It made me more "complete". I did not get the EE degree primarily so I could get a job, I did it more for personal fulfilment. The practical aspect of having the EE degree is that you have more credibility to the "suits". This will always be the case. The suits do not understand EE, therefore the only criteria they can use to judge you by is the EE degree. Even if you decide to start your own business, as I did in the early 90's, the EE degree will come in handy to impress your prospective customers. They also do not understand EE, and can only look at the EE degree to judge you by.

Ditto, suits and insurers.


The ray of sunshine in all of this is that my young son and his friends seem to be a heck of a lot more sensible than we were at his age & may be placed to do a better job of keeping things on the rails in the future. Regrettably they will have to be as there are a number of pressing issues with which they will have to deal.

--
Cheers

Don

PS It's the weekend so I will drop the Neil "don't bring me down man" & refit the happy face for 48 hrs ;-)


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