> magically a sheet input symbol with the correct symbol naming appears That is magic. It's a new feature called "Place Sheet Entries automatically" and when you draw a wire up to a sub sheet, a sheet entry will be added and assume the name of the net. It also assumes the direction of the signal if it can determine it from somewhere else such as another sheet entry when going from sheet to sheet.
This has nothing to do with FPGAs. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Velander Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 11:40 AM To: Protel EDA Discussion List Subject: Re: [PEDA] 6.0 ? it is here Dennis, I watched a few of them (6-8), yes I would have to admit they are minimally instructive but I found them far from complete or fully instructive. It is not much better than sitting and watching an experienced user operate the package in real-time (as fast as they can go) while you are trying to learn. Some of it just raised more questions than they answered. I went back and checked for a pertinent example from what I viewed. In the Smart Paste demo at approx. the 35-40% mark they are creating a smart paste bus based upon the previously selected nets. I rewound and replayed this section of the demo many times just trying to see what I might have missed the first few times. They select "Ports, Wires and Netlabels" but from that point forward there is no additional details that define a Bus, Wire, Port or a Netlabel. Why it places a bus and doesn't place a set of wires or a Port. There is also a port length setting as well as "Wire length", what determines that you placed a Bus with the "Wire" length setting vs. a Port with the set "Port length"? There was no choice or selection made to place a Bus, "Ports, Wires and Netlabels", so if I had wanted individual Wires, a Port or Netlabels, I got a Bus! At about the 60% point of this same Smart Paste demo they add an input port to a sheet, all that occurs on screen is that a bus and port symbol are pasted next to a sheet symbol and then the cursor is clicked on the edge of the sheet, magically a sheet input symbol with the correct symbol naming appears. It is even already an input symbol with the correct name (how was it determined that the symbol should be input and not output or bidirectional?). Maybe I am missing something on this one because it seems it is part of the FPGA suite function. Is it that advanced that it assumes your single click wants the input port symbol, somehow based upon some previous input/output function elsewhere on those signals? Do they have similar intelligence in regular SCH as well? Although it could be rather annoying at times when the program is trying to second guess your design intent. What happens with multiple outputs or inputs tied together at some point, how would it determine your connection/signal-flow intent in those cases? So here this is just one example where I have assumed there were additional operations missing from the video. Sincerely, Brad Velander Senior PCB Designer Northern Airborne Technology #14 - 1925 Kirschner Road, Kelowna, BC, V1Y 4N7. tel (250) 763-2329 ext. 225 fax (250) 762-3374 -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Saputelli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 10:16 AM To: Protel EDA Discussion List Subject: Re: [PEDA] 6.0 ? it is here i can't agree brad i found the videos instructive, i didn't see any lags and the stuff magically appearing i think is just good time saving editing maybe they were using shortcuts so the panels wouldn't flood and cover the screen, they're faster anyway i couldn't figure how they did the new single layer viewing modes i saw, so i went back to the video and yes although they did not 'show' it they did vocalize the info i needed and i got it very quickly from that they did say the defaults were something they were not and on the flip view they showed an indication of the view direction on a menu icon which i do not see, but i consider that to be very minor stuff ds _______________________________________________________________________ Integrated Controls, Inc. Tel: 415-647-0480 EXT 107 2851 21st Street Fax: 415-647-3003 San Francisco, CA 94110 www.integratedcontrolsinc.com ____________________________________________________________ You are subscribed to the PEDA discussion forum To Post messages: mailto:[email protected] Unsubscribe and Other Options: http://techservinc.com/mailman/listinfo/peda_techservinc.com Browse or Search Old Archives (2001-2004): http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] Browse or Search Current Archives (2004-Current): http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] ____________________________________________________________ You are subscribed to the PEDA discussion forum To Post messages: mailto:[email protected] Unsubscribe and Other Options: http://techservinc.com/mailman/listinfo/peda_techservinc.com Browse or Search Old Archives (2001-2004): http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] Browse or Search Current Archives (2004-Current): http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
