John,

That's bound to save alot of experimenting.  I have an add-on for Acad that
generates a gerber output and has worked well in the past.  I have never run
into Computervision.

Thank you
Len

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John M. Cardone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Protel EDA Discussion List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 3:40 PM
Subject: Re: [PEDA] RFID tags/antennas


> Leonard,
> I think what you were asking had to do with the design within Protel,
> not the RF design of the antenna. It's been my experience that it is
> often easier to design antenna forms in a mechanical CAD package and
> import them to protel (DXF). I doubt if you have access to it but the
> best package to do this type of work in was Computervision which
> combined mechanical and electrical (i.e. gerber output) into one
> database. Like me it was slow but always completed the job.
> Respectfully,
> John Cardone
>
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>
> Leonard Gabrielson wrote:
>
> >Thomas,
> >
> >You don't reply to shotgun requests, but you sure don't mind hacking out
> >several posts for venting purposes, which contributes nothing to this
forum.
> >I'm sorry if I offended your senses, by asking a "general" question.
There
> >would be a lot more useful information posted if you'd just not reply at
all
> >if you have nothing to contribute.
> >
> >I will certainly check all of the archive posts I can find.
> >
> >Thanks
> >Len Gabrielson
> >----- Original Message ----- 
> >From: "Seim, Thomas A" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "Protel EDA Discussion List" <[email protected]>
> >Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 3:17 PM
> >Subject: Re: [PEDA] RFID tags/antennas
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>Looks like the courtesy cops are hot on my tail!
> >>
> >>Personally, I don't like my in-box being flooded by a bunch of responses
> >>to a vague and ill thought out question. And I am taking the opportunity
> >>to say so. I intend to do the same identical thing in the future, should
> >>the mood suit.
> >>
> >>My advice to posters of questions:
> >>
> >>1. Do your homework first.
> >>
> >>2. Ask a narrow, targeted question.
> >>
> >>There is always the Block Sender option if you don't like my frankness -
> >>it wouldn't hurt my feelings a bit.
> >>
> >>Tom
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>On Behalf Of Finks, Tim (Healdsburg)
> >>Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 11:58 AM
> >>To: Protel EDA Discussion List
> >>Subject: Re: [PEDA] RFID tags/antennas
> >>
> >>I suggest that useful and respectful replies are obligatory, and are the
> >>responsibility of the person responding. If responses are impatient and
> >>sarcastic, an otherwise valuable forum becomes much less so.
> >>
> >>Regards,
> >>
> >>Tim
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>On Behalf Of Seim, Thomas A
> >>Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 11:19 AM
> >>To: Protel EDA Discussion List
> >>Subject: Re: [PEDA] RFID tags/antennas
> >>
> >>This is exactly why I don't respond to shotgun requests.
> >>
> >>If you want a useful reply, post a detailed (not shotgun) request. And
> >>any request on antennas MUST INCLUDE THE OPERATING FREQUENCY - NO
> >>EXCEPTIONS!!! Or do you want to try a 100 KHz antenna at 2.4 GHz, or
> >>vice versa? And my response was VERY USEFUL: go to the manufacturer's ap
> >>notes because they are a treasure trove of data (I know this because I
> >>have)! Maybe the guy doesn't even know that ap notes are available...
> >>
> >>Tom
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 10:54 AM
> >>To: Protel EDA Discussion List
> >>Subject: Re: [PEDA] RFID tags/antennas
> >>
> >>Hmmm...Interesting how  Tom's reply could lead anywhere...
> >>I understand Len was asking for "Any design info you'd care to share?"
> >>nothing specific...so if you have something that you would like to share
> >>good, otherwise....your reply was unnecessary.
> >>
> >>Thanks,
> >>
> >>Carlos
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>"Seim, Thomas A" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>02/06/2007 11:38 AM
> >>Please respond to
> >>Protel EDA Discussion List <[email protected]>
> >>
> >>
> >>To
> >>"Protel EDA Discussion List" <[email protected]> cc
> >>
> >>Subject
> >>Re: [PEDA] RFID tags/antennas
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>I generally don't respond to such shotgun requests, but have you
> >>bothered to check RFID manufacturer's application notes (probably not,
> >>as they are full of this info). The clue here is that you didn't specify
> >>a frequency, which is worse than asking "what kind of car should I
> >>buy?".
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>On Behalf Of Leonard Gabrielson
> >>Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 2:30 PM
> >>To: [email protected]
> >>Subject: [PEDA] RFID tags/antennas
> >>
> >>Hi all,
> >>
> >>Does anyone have any experience printing RFID antennas using Protel99SE?
> >>Any design info you'd care to share?
> >>
> >>Thanks in advance,
> >>Len G.
> >>
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