Edwina, List, I agree entirely with what Edwina has said regarding R. Marty's work. Peirce lives or dies with respect to the kind of work R. Marty has done here where the structuralism, necessarily deduced from Peirce's writings, is given mathematically and precisely (in numerical structure). Far more valuable, in my opinion, than arguments ad nauseum over the precision of certain terms. Indeed, following the work done one could switch out all of Peirce's terms and retain his basic structure —which is surely the "scientific" point. (arbitary state grammars, etc, with respect to a structuralism which Peirce understood to be non-arbtirary).
Best Jack ________________________________ From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Edwina Taborsky <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2025 2:41 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Cc: robert marty <[email protected]>; edwina Taborsky <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Indexicality and Speculative Grammar (was Facts, Opinion, Perspective, and Inquiry) List Robert Marty provided us with a lattice of the ten classes of triadic signs- and referred to them as showing ‘a phenomenological principle of embodiments’. I think that should be the focus - not the terms that Peirce used - but the actuality of semiosis. What does semiosis do? It is an organizational process that ‘embodies’ energy/matter/information into one form, and then, enables the transformation of this form with its energy/matter/information content…into another morphological form. This suggests that semiosis organizes energy/matter/information - and both ADDS to one embodiment..and/or REMOVES from an embodiment. And also- reorganizes try content... Robert has shown this in his lattice, where. For example, a Dicent Indexical Legisign [322] a street cry] embodies Rheumatic Indexical Legisigns [321] a demonstrative pronoun…Notice that the Dicent has picked up information, or added information, to that Rhematic triad. It’s moved from an interpretant in Firstness to one in Secondness - it’s more specific and focused. Now- how did it do this? Where did this extra information come from? Is it the Legisign process that is transforming this morphology? Edwina
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