Dear Gary and list

Peirce seems keen to work with the foundation of all religions, which is one 
way to characterize the pure types of mysticism and the theory of collecting 
them into a perennial philosophy.  His theory of the immanent divine as 
Firstness and  his idea of an emptiness before the three categories or 
universes, as he also calls them -a Tohu Bohu (the great emptiness) as he 
quotes from the old testament - is pretty mystical.  It is also important to 
note that Peirce is both inspired by transcendental Christianity as well as 
Buddhism in a sort of panentheism. The divine is both immanent and transcendent 
in Peirce's philosophy. It is both an emptiness "behind and before" the 
manifested world in time and space giving birth to a Firstness of 
possibilities, "random sporting", qualia and possible mathematical forms. 
Peirce writes:



"If we are to proceed in a logical and scientific manner, we must, in order to 
account for the whole universe, suppose an initial condition in which the whole 
universe was non-existent, and therefore a state of absolute nothing. . . . But 
this is not the nothing of negation. . . . The nothing of negation is the 
nothing of death, which comes second to, or after, everything. But this pure 
zero is the nothing of not having been born. There is no individual thing, no 
compulsion, outward nor inward, no law. It is the germinal nothing, in which 
the whole universe is involved or foreshadowed. As such, it is absolutely 
undefined and unlimited possibility -- boundless possibility. There is no 
compulsion and no law. It is boundless freedom.

Now the question arises, what necessarily resulted from that state of things? 
But the only sane answer is that where freedom was boundless nothing in 
particular necessarily resulted. . . .

I say that nothing necessarily resulted from the Nothing of boundless freedom. 
That is, nothing according to deductive logic. But such is not the logic of 
freedom or possibility. The logic of freedom, or potentiality, is that it shall 
annul itself. For if it does not annul itself, it remains a completely idle and 
do-nothing potentiality; and a completely idle potentiality is annulled by its 
complete idleness."



(CP 6.215-219)


This philosophy places "emptiness" and "the void" at a central a place in 
Peirce's metaphysics, as it is in the pure mysticism of Buddhism, for instance 
the version represented in the writings of Nargajuna (1995) in his famous verse:


"Whatever is dependently co-arising
That is explained to be emptiness.
That, being a dependent designation
Is itself the middle way."
                                                                        
(Garfield 1995, p. 93)
This verse defines "the middle way" of Buddhism. It is the view arising from 
the contention that everything is supported and connected by a positive 
emptiness (which is not an absence but a primary being), the foundation for 
nearly all major Buddhist schools in East Asia (Garfield 1995)[1]. The 
metaphysics of emptiness is to be found not only in Buddhism but also in the 
Vedic thinking of Shankara's Advaita Vedanta  and Christian mysticism (John of 
the Cross and Eckehart). Peirce saw Buddhism and Christianity melting together 
within a transcendental religious view of empathy and love as the foundation of 
reality. The emphasis on feeling and emotion as central to all "rational" 
thought is one of Peirce's outstanding contributions to understanding the 
processes of mind. Such a way of thinking is close to the mystical thinking we 
find in many cultures and many historical periods inside and outside religions, 
and is sometimes referred to as "the perennial philosophy."

The idea of "mystic" does not mean a personal meeting with a personal God, but 
the merging of the inner and the outside of our being in a unity consciousness, 
which as such is a no-experience as it lacks the duality need for a subject to 
experience something else. It is well described in Zen. Eckhart also say "I 
pray to God to get writ of God". The idea of a personal God only arise on the 
"other side" of the mystical state. But Peirce did not seem to know very much 
about these kinds of descriptions.

Best

                      Søren



Fra: Gary Fuhrman [mailto:[email protected]]
Sendt: 21. maj 2014 17:21
Til: 'Peirce List'
Emne: RE: [PEIRCE-L] De Waal seminar chapter 9, section on God, science and 
religion: text 1

Søren, list,

Peirce did not use the term "panentheism" because it wasn't available in his 
time. But he did use both "mysticism" and "revelation" - even defined the 
latter for the Century Dictionary - and his usage of both is fairly consistent 
with his own philosophical work as a whole, and with current usage of those 
terms as well. So I don't think it's helpful to apply them to Peirce's work in 
a sense quite different from Peirce's usage.

I agree with what you say below about "musement", even to calling it a form of 
"meditation". But what animates musement, and the whole Neglected Argument 
which begins with it, is neither mysticism nor revelation; rather it's the 
"natural light" of reason, as Kees explains in 9.5. This "natural light" is the 
root, as it were, of Peircean common-sensism and of Peirce's view of religion; 
it's what makes science religious. It's also the root of the instinctive 
beliefs which, according to Peirce, are more reliable in most practical 
situations than deliberate reasoning is.

Here's a few Peirce passages to illustrate this point (I can give many more :)) 
while also exemplifying Peircean usage of the terms "mystical" and "revelation".

CP 1.142-3, c.1897:

Now if exactitude, certitude, and universality are not to be attained by 
reasoning, there is certainly no other means by which they can be reached.
Somebody will suggest revelation. ... I do not think it is philosophical to 
reject the possibility of a revelation. Still, granting that, I declare as a 
logician that revealed truths - that is, truths which have nothing in their 
favor but revelations made to a few individuals - constitute by far the most 
uncertain class of truths there are. There is here no question of universality; 
for revelation is itself sporadic and miraculous. There is no question of 
mathematical exactitude; for no revelation makes any pretension to that 
character. But it does pretend to be certain; and against that there are three 
conclusive objections. First, we never can be absolutely certain that any given 
deliverance really is inspired; for that can only be established by reasoning. 
We cannot even prove it with any very high degree of probability. Second, even 
if it is inspired, we cannot be sure, or nearly sure, that the statement is 
true.... All inspired matter has been subject to human distortion or coloring. 
Besides we cannot penetrate the counsels of the most High, or lay down anything 
as a principle that would govern his conduct. We do not know his inscrutable 
purposes, nor can we comprehend his plans. We cannot tell but he might see fit 
to inspire his servants with errors. In the third place, a truth which rests on 
the authority of inspiration only is of a somewhat incomprehensible nature; and 
we never can be sure that we rightly comprehend it. As there is no way of 
evading these difficulties, I say that revelation, far from affording us any 
certainty, gives results less certain than other sources of information. This 
would be so even if revelation were much plainer than it is.


CP 2.23-5, 1902:

The opinion just now referred to, that logical principles are known by an 
inward light of reason, called the "light of nature" to distinguish it from the 
"light of grace" which comes by revelation, has been the opinion entertained by 
the majority of careful logicians.

The phrase "light of reason," or its near equivalent, may probably be found in 
every literature. The "old philosopher" of China, Lao-Tze, who lived in the 
sixth century B.C. says for example, "Whoso useth reason's light, and turneth 
back, and goeth home to its enlightenment, surrendereth not his person to 
perdition. This is called practising the eternal." The doctrine of a light of 
reason seems to be inwrapped in the old Babylonian philosophy of the first 
chapter of Genesis, where the Godhead says, "Let us make man in our image, 
after our likeness." It may, no doubt, justly be said that this is only an 
explanation to account for the resemblances of the images of the gods to men, a 
difficulty which the Second Commandment meets in another way. But does not this 
remark simply carry the doctrine back to the days when the gods were first made 
in man's image? To believe in a god at all, is not that to believe that man's 
reason is allied to the originating principle of the universe?


EP2:324: "The very entelechy of being lies in being representable. A sign 
cannot even be false without being a sign and so far as it is a sign it must be 
true. A symbol is an embryonic reality endowed with power of growth into the 
very truth, the very entelechy of reality. This appears mystical and mysterious 
simply because we insist on remaining blind to what is plain, that there can be 
no reality which has not the life of a symbol."


CP 5:383-4 (revised version of "Fixation of Belief"):

Now, there are some people, among whom I must suppose that my reader is to be 
found, who, when they see that any belief of theirs is determined by any 
circumstance extraneous to the facts, will from that moment not merely admit in 
words that that belief is doubtful, but will experience a real doubt of it, so 
that it ceases in some degree at least to be a belief.
To satisfy our doubts, therefore, it is necessary that a method should be found 
by which our beliefs may be determined by nothing human, but by some external 
permanency - by something upon which our thinking has no effect [But which, on 
the other hand, unceasingly tends to influence thought; or in other words, by 
something Real]. Some mystics imagine that they have such a method in a private 
inspiration from on high. But that is only a form of the method of tenacity, in 
which the conception of truth as something public is not yet developed.

Enough for now!

gary f.

From: Søren Brier [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: 20-May-14 9:19 AM
To: Gary Fuhrman; Peirce List
Subject: SV: [PEIRCE-L] De Waal seminar chapter 9, section on God, science and 
religion: text 1

Dear Gary

I think this problem you bring up here hinges on the definition of "mystical". 
I agree that Peirce does not use this term as he does not use the term 
Panentheism. These are terms that I have used to describe his position. The 
term "revelation" is also my term. I do not recall if Brent use of it in 
writing. But this was what I got out of a discussion with him in the "Symposium 
on the Religious Writings of Charles S. Peirce" in Denver 2003. 
http://wings.buffalo.edu/research/peirce/symposiumAnn&Call.pdf . Brent writes. 
...for Peirce, semiotics should be understood ... as the working out of how the 
real is both immanent and transcendent and how the infinite speaker may be said 
to practice semiosis ... in the creation of our universe."  Brent (1998:212)

But I do agree that it is a problem for many researchers of Peirce if there is 
such a connection between his ide og reasonableness as semiotic logic and a 
perennial philosophy idea of pure mysticism, where you transcends space and 
time into an "experience" of unity, which is described by so many mystics over 
the time, within various religions and outside them. As Nesteruk writes:

Contemporary cosmology, as well as science in general, has to face the paradox 
of human subjectivity in the universe. This paradox was explicitly formulated 
in philosophical thought by E. Husserl and rephrased later by many thinkers 
across philosophy and theology.                                           
(Nesteruk 2005 p. 8)

I do interpret Peirce's 'musement' as a form of meditation and his argument for 
that all men would reach to the concept of God as an explanatory factor for the 
reasonableness of the evolving universe and our place in it. Musement is an a 
free experiential abduction. It is not purely rational exercise.

Peirce certainly new something about Vedic thinking and Advaita Vedanta and the 
pure forms of Buddhism as can be seem from a few quotes from CP. I have been 
unable to find anymore writings here. If he got it from James or Carus. I do 
not know. Peirce and William James were both influenced by Buddhist thinking. 
James also met with Vivekananda as well as with Suzuki, the most famous 
interpreter of Zen-Buddhism. Suzuki worked in the US for Paul Carus, the editor 
of The Monist. But surely Schelling is close to this kind of thinking too. Here 
is a quote on Vedic thinking from Peirce:

"There is still another direction in which the barbaric conception of personal 
identity must be broadened. A Brahmanical hymn begins as follows: "I am that 
pure and infinite Self, who am bliss, eternal, manifest, all-pervading, and who 
am the substrate of all that owns name and form." This expresses more than 
humiliation, - the utter swallowing up of the poor individual self in the 
Spirit of prayer. All communication from mind to mind is through continuity of 
being. A man is capable of having assigned to him a role in the drama of 
creation, and so far as he loses himself in that role, - no matter how humble 
it may be, - so far he identifies himself with its Author."               
(Peirce CP 7.572)

Like Aristotle, Peirce - based on his synechism - assumes that the "stuff" of 
reality or of which the world is built is Hylé, a continuum of matter and mind. 
Peirce viewed our non-scientific ways of thinking as being indispensable not 
only for knowledge but as the very basis for perception and thought. For Peirce 
it is his phenomenological, which he called phaneroscophy, basis of his 
philosophy. Evolutionarily this reflection also reminds you of the common 
origin of matter and consciousness. Rather than thoughts being substantial 
entities identified either with physical brains or immaterial minds, Peirce 
understands thoughts as signs. We are more in thought than thoughts are in us.

Now I have had discussion with some pan-semioticians if experience is a 
necessary aspect of semiosis, and I have argued yes, since feeling is 
fundamental to Firstness. They think no, and that semiosis is a dynamical 
fundamental system of interaction in the physical world, more fundamental than 
the classical mechanical physics description. But in "The Architecture of 
Theories" (1891) Peirce wrote:

Without going into other important questions of philosophical architectonic, we 
can readily foresee what sort of a metaphysics would appropriately be 
constructed from those conceptions... a Cosmogonic Philosophy. It would suppose 
that in the beginning -- infinitely remote -- there was a chaos of 
unpersonalized feeling, which being without connection or regularity would 
properly be without existence. This feeling, sporting here and there in pure 
arbitrariness, would have started the germ of a generalizing tendency. Its 
other sportings would be evanescent, but this would have a growing virtue.  
(Peirce: CP 6.33.)

But I admit that the evidence is indirect and I have a strong feeling that we 
are missing some manuscripts on this matter.

References:

Nesteruk, A. (2005): "The Universe Transcended: Gods 'Presence in absence' in 
Science and Theology, European Journal of Science and Theology, June 2005, Vol. 
1, No. 2, 7-19.


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[1] See also floyd merrell's wok on these aspects in Merrell 2009.
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