Dear Helmut,
            Yes, and I think Aldous Huxley put it well in his little book Brave 
New World Revisited, where he said:
“Biologically speaking, man is a moderately gregarious, not a completely social 
animal -- a creature more like a wolf, let us say, or an elephant, than like a 
bee or an ant. In their original form human societies bore no resemblance to 
the hive or the ant heap; they were merely packs. Civilization is, among other 
things, the process by which primitive packs are transformed into an analogue, 
crude and mechanical, of the social insects’ organic communities. At the 
present time the pressures of over-population and technological change are 
accelerating this process. The termitary has come to seem a realizable and 
even, in some eyes, a desirable ideal. Needless to say, the ideal will never in 
fact be realized. A great gulf separates the social insect from the not too 
gregarious, big-brained mammal; and even though the mammal should do his best 
to imitate the insect, the gulf would remain. However hard they try, men cannot 
create a social organism, they can only create an organization. In the process 
of trying to create an organism they will merely create a totalitarian 
despotism.”

Gene

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Dear Gene,
I agree. The self concept is the opposite of a potato. But I must revise what I 
wrote, that intelligence helps social competence, because ants are socially 
very competent, but not intelligent and have no self consciousness. I rather 
think, that reflection can disintegrate one from the social context, and social 
systems "know" that, so they produce myths and "consensus trance" (Charles 
Tart), to keep people from thinking and in agreement with the system.

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Dear Helmut,

Or maybe rather: Die Quantität der Potate ist indirekt proportional zur 
Intelligenskapazität ihres Kultivators! (Or, as it is put in the south:  Der 
Dümmste Bauer hat die grösste’ Kartoffel’!).

Loosely translated: “The size of the potato is indirectly proportional to the 
IQ of the farmer; or, the dumbest hick has the biggest spud.”
Gene

 From: Helmut Raulien [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 11:14 AM
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 Maybe the ability of having a self concept is proportional with the 
intelligence or the well functioning of the mind, because the mind is a 
reflecting system, and also self-reflecting, if it is highly developed. But 
intelligence does not guarantee social competence: Asperger people and are 
often very intelligent, but lack social competence. I like the term "social 
agreement", though many agreements have been established long before a human 
was born, and are eg. present in the epigenes and genes. Social agreements, I 
think, are the structure of a social system (Luhmann said, expectations and 
expectations of expectations are the structure). And the more one shares these 
agreements or expectations, the more social competence he or she has. 
Intelligence, of course, helps too, but not alone. And a trauma, like having 
been neglected as a child, or experience of violence, like in a war, can 
destroy or block social agreements and with it social competence.
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